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Offline Mick D

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Open Class XR race development and advise
« on: June 29, 2016, 07:52:05 pm »
Hi.
« Last Edit: June 29, 2016, 07:54:12 pm by Mick D »
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Re: Open Class XR development and advise
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2016, 07:57:27 pm »
hi your self...and in answer to your next question....I don't know any thing about open class Hondas. I do have a husky 510 so I don't need to worry about developing it....

a mate had a 500 and he put a warm cam etc but ended up going back to stock as it was a pain to tune.

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Re: Open Class XR race development and advise
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2016, 07:59:53 pm »
Surely the first step is to fit a better motor? Something 2-stroke, for example.
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Re: Open Class XR race development and advise
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2016, 08:22:04 pm »
Nathan is on to it    ;D ;D
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Re: Open Class XR race development and advise
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2016, 10:28:53 pm »
http://s300.photobucket.com/user/logistics835/media/xr200%202_zpstykrvwsc.jpg.html
http://s300.photobucket.com/user/logistics835/media/xr200%201_zpswv4gstgl.jpg.html
Here is a couple of photos of my xr200 nearly ready for racing
XR class would be good
will be running it the Viper series against all the 250 2 strokes
and the over 45s old man events

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Re: Open Class XR race development and advise
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2016, 11:00:34 pm »
Cant wait too see that hot 200 racing. You should be able to run that with the 125s. Will be competative then.

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Re: Open Class XR race development and advise
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2016, 07:34:25 am »
now that we have had a free shot :D, I suggest the Ballards catalogue for all things XR especially go fast stuff. they should have access to information regarding big bores, cams and carb updates. the shock is a weak item and should be replaced with a better quality unit. gold valves for the forks or even an upgrade to later model larger units. that will depend on what class or year you wish to run in. maybe fitting a smaller tank of a 200 and as much lightening work as you can do. remove all superfluous brackets etc, change axles to lighter units, check hub/wheel weights with CR units etc and change if practical. simplify the airbox. depends on how far you wish to go.

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Re: Open Class XR race development and advise
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2016, 06:23:15 pm »
G'day Mick D, did you get that SL125 running lol jimson
Just a balless freak having a go

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Re: Open Class XR race development and advise
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2016, 08:50:05 pm »
G'day Mick D, did you get that SL125 running lol jimson

No mate, that was just a bare frame and motor. I don't have any other bits.
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Re: Open Class XR race development and advise
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2016, 08:55:03 pm »
http://s300.photobucket.com/user/logistics835/media/xr200%202_zpstykrvwsc.jpg.html
http://s300.photobucket.com/user/logistics835/media/xr200%201_zpswv4gstgl.jpg.html
Here is a couple of photos of my xr200 nearly ready for racing
XR class would be good
will be running it the Viper series against all the 250 2 strokes
and the over 45s old man events

That's a great looking build Bruce G. Amazing, well imagined and expedited 8)


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Re: Open Class XR race development and advise
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2016, 09:29:38 pm »
Now as for the comedians ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D I am guessing you don't know what Ballard and the rest of the world does,,,

How many Motorcycles can you name that won Baja 1000 races spanning a 12 year period? Nine off road championships. Dozens of other off-road events.
Only the XR600r can claim this crown. It won its first Baja 1000 in 1986 by 45 miutes. It won it three more times. It won the Baja500 three times. It won three gold medals for in the international Six Day Enduros, whilst racing against the best riders in the world who were on their own home ground 8)
Scott Summers won Nine AMA National championships on the XR600R,
I could go on and on, but surely you are staring to get the picture?

So what other model of dirt bike can make those sort of claims?
So Comedians do you want to come back out and play ;D


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Re: Open Class XR race development and advise
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2016, 09:42:00 pm »
how much did they spend to achieve those results ::). in the aus safari, an engine change was pretty common occurrence for the big xr's

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Re: Open Class XR race development and advise
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2016, 09:44:57 pm »
Geeez, I have had a hell of a lot of bikes, few have thrilled me as much as the XR500RE has.
Thumpers,,humm,,Ok Basically rode a new DR500 half way around Aus and back. had two DR600s ::)
A loan of a orange tank  XT500. Owned a TE610, I would rather the XR500RE anyday!

I lent it to Jeremy I for the weekend of the last Heaven Vinduro at Gloucester.
He has told a lot of people that he has never enjoyed a bike ride more in his life 8) Still trying to buy it of me, don't think so, he'll have to wait untill I am dust ::)

I raise the forks in the tripples. That made a huge improvement to steering.
Main negatives are the weight of it and the starting ritual. Both of them shit me.

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Re: Open Class XR race development and advise
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2016, 09:49:11 pm »
how much did they spend to achieve those results ::). in the aus safari, an engine change was pretty common occurrence for the big xr's

Very good point, but surely they couldn't be any worse than the new wave modern hand grenades? No where near as bad, Surely?
Just been reading some other web stuff forums, etc.

I am gathering the Ballard's style big fin heads and an oil cooler are a must for a long termer.
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Re: Open Class XR race development and advise
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2016, 09:50:59 pm »
They achieved quite a number of SA 24hr wins as well, in both solo and sidecar form.
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