One bike in Pre75/78

[Nathan S]

Was it Les Barfoot on the XR75 at the 2006 Coffs Nats?

Once again, we have rules that are written, rules we think are written, rules we think should be written and other nonsense.
Regardless of any personal opinions or moralising, only the written rules have any standing.

[Momus]

Les has raced his XR75+ succesfully at National level. There are other examples as well.

Conventional wisdom and painful personal experience has that a half litre 2 stroke MXer is much more dangerous than a close to the ground, light and low powered mini.

At the VCM Yarram round last year the first 5 or 6 of the modern 85 cc minis running as supports, were clearing the 50 or so foot tabletop. I saw one classic bike out of about 60, an RM370 piloted by a young A grader, clear it a couple of times.

 

[bigk]

Nothing like being shouted at over the internet, thanks KTM, but I am allowed an opinion, plus an XR75 is far from a big wheel 85. So Momus is all good to go then? Sweet, I'll be there watching it amongst the rest of the 4 strokes.
K

[KTM47]

Nothing like being shouted at over the internet, thanks KTM, but I am allowed an opinion, plus an XR75 is far from a big wheel 85. So Momus is all good to go then? Sweet, I'll be there watching it amongst the rest of the 4 strokes.
K

Sorry was I shouting.  I didn't use capitals or bold.

Has anyone picked up on the other thing I said.

While the Classic classes are stated as up to 125 the Post Classic are just 125.

[supersenior 50]

I've discussed it with the entrant, no problems, no grey area, all covered by the rule,
all happy, end of story

[VMX247]

Also please note the reason these classes are up to is simple.  Some vertically challenged riders prefer to ride and race bikes they can touch the ground on.  In particular female riders.

Has anyone picked up on the other thing I said.

Yes stirrer ..all women are short ass's and all pre78 bikes are the same too       

[GD66]

Good point, buddy 

[FourstrokeForever]

Interesting the question of so called MINI BIKES in classes.  Lets look at this RE the Classic MX section of the MoMS.

1.  There are no restrictions on wheel sizes.  No mention at all, but as an example in the MX Junior section where wheel sizes are given the 125 class sizes 17 to 21 front and 16 to 19 rear.  This permits a 100 BW into the 125 class. But again no restrictions in the Classic MX rules.

2.  The 125 classes for Classic Aust MX Champs all state "up to 125cc" so that is 1cc to 125cc plus 5%.

3.  Also note the 125 classes for Post Classic all state "125cc" so it can be agrued that that means 125cc plus or minus 5%.

Any personal thoughts aside, thems the rules to go by.

Have fun on the XR Marcus. As an afterthought, if your worried about to much power and weight, why not stick the XR75 motor in the RM370 frame?

[KTM47]

Also please note the reason these classes are up to is simple.  Some vertically challenged riders prefer to ride and race bikes they can touch the ground on.  In particular female riders.

Has anyone picked up on the other thing I said.

Yes stirrer ..all women are short ass's and all pre78 bikes are the same too       

No that is not what I said.  There are men whose bums are too close to the seat too.  A former President of MCWA is one. I was also pointing that while the Classic rules do permit any capacity under 125 the Post Classic rules don't.

[matcho mick]

you guys still crack me up,

[sleepy]

Almost all 125's stock are 123cc so Kevin you are saying that they have to be bored out a little to race post classic?

[Ted]

Almost all 125's stock are 123cc so Kevin you are saying that they have to be bored out a little to race post classic?

Kevvy is just quoting what is written in the GCR. Anything Pre 78 can compete on UP TO 125cc. Anything Post Classic must be 125cc. However if you want to compete in Pre 75 Age races you must have a 125cc. There is no provision for UP TO in Age classes. Go figure

[KTM47]

Almost all 125's stock are 123cc so Kevin you are saying that they have to be bored out a little to race post classic?

5% of 125cc is 6.25cc

[KTM47]

Almost all 125's stock are 123cc so Kevin you are saying that they have to be bored out a little to race post classic?

Kevvy is just quoting what is written in the GCR. Anything Pre 78 can compete on UP TO 125cc. Anything Post Classic must be 125cc. However if you want to compete in Pre 75 Age races you must have a 125cc. There is no provision for UP TO in Age classes. Go figure

Read what13.5.0.3 says.  it says All Powers (Unlimited) or Capacity Classes, which are up to 125cc.

[sleepy]

Almost all 125's stock are 123cc so Kevin you are saying that they have to be bored out a little to race post classic?

5% of 125cc is 6.25cc

I didn't say anything about how big they could be. Your interpretation of the rules as you said above for post classic is that a 125 has to be 125cc so anything either side of that is not eligable by your definition.