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Offline Curtis

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81 RM400 vs PE400??
« on: April 08, 2016, 01:33:43 pm »
Iv had a big bore Suzuki on my wish list for a while, as iv never actually ridden either (I was born in 81), was wondering what people recommend as a good all rounder for MX, Enduro, Dirt track? Iv read that the PE actually makes more HP than the RM, how did they compare in real life back in the day?? Iv got a few bikes id be willing to swap if anyone has one to move on?
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Re: 81 RM400 vs PE400??
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2016, 02:38:05 pm »
RM400, abrupt, peaky power, tiring to ride. PE400, smooth torquey, power, much easier to ride.
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Re: 81 RM400 vs PE400??
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2016, 03:02:10 pm »
This was an advert i wrote a few years back when selling a PE 400

Points out some of the differences .

But as an all rounder go the PE

Pe 400T 1980 project or parts bike , this bike is a runner and would make a great entry level open class VMX bike. If your looking for a low hr concourse resto  jump on and race bike probably best jog on John .
However if your looking for a potential championship winning VMXer read on, this beast is just waiting to have its potential unleashed by the right enthusiast .
A well set up PE 400 with a good rider on board will easily run at the front of the field in the VMX Evo open class. Fortunately this bike is neither well prepared nor had a good rider on it in living memory .If you fit an RM tank and guards (see my other listings ) from a distance it will still look nothing like an RM ( but with the money you have saved over an RM who cares).
Other advantages over the RM 400 include primary kick starting  , ( for our female viewers and the mechanically challenged ) that means you can disengage the clutch and start the bike in gear. This is not possible on the RM 400 ,  big deal I hear you say well think on , your first VMX race meeting you’ve  been building up to it for months . The gate drops for your first race your round the first turn in 3rd place (only 2 PE 400s in front of you ) end of 1st lap and your holding a strong 3rd place , the familys watching with pride as dads exceeding all expectations . You slow into a hair pin and stall the bike , seconds seem like hours as rider after rider passes you while you’re trying to find neutral to start the bugger , finally you get going again but the pack is long gone . You return to the pits with a face like a bulldog chewing a wasp , the missus and kids come over and ask what happened ? you let fly , missus says “ I thought this was supposed to be a fun family day out “ kids are crying and your VMX career is over before it got started , all because you bought an RM instead of a PE .
The PE 400 also features taper roller steering head bearings ( the only balls needed here are a pair to tame this bad boy ) and a stronger overall frame .
The good
Motor runs and selects all gears
Brakes work
Tyres are good
New shocks fitted
Genuine side panels and rear guard are in good condition ( small split approx 10mm ) at bottom rear of guard . These guards are sort after by restorers , but you will want to put it away for that 100 point concourse resto   you will do to this bike once you’re bored with winning VMX titles .
Can be ridden as is
The not so good
Motor a bit rattly in the top end
No road gear
Will require some effort  to make race ready

Its only old bike racing FFS get over yourselves





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Re: 81 RM400 vs PE400??
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2016, 05:50:56 pm »
Buy a KTM 420 or Husky 420. Both RM/PE take allot of sorting and money to be nearly as good. 
Current bikes. KTM MC 250 77 Husky CR 360 77, Husky 82 420 Auto Bitsa XR 200 project. Dont need a pickle just need to ride my motorcickle

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Re: 81 RM400 vs PE400??
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2016, 05:52:44 pm »
There no such thing as a 81 RM400. 81 was a 465 and single shock. I think the PE is a good versatile bike though. You can also register it and go trail riding. RM can be a little hard to find gear box parts for these days. I would have a look back through the wanted ads on here over the bast few months as you can see a few guys have been struggling to find some parts.
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Re: 81 RM400 vs PE400??
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2016, 06:19:31 pm »
I use to think it was stupid for a bike not to have "primary kick' but in reality, you have to get back to low gear to take off again (say if you stalled it in 3rd), and not many bikes are easy to start in gear due to clutch drag?
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Re: 81 RM400 vs PE400??
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2016, 01:12:43 pm »
Thanks for the exellent advice all!! Might try n score a ride on one first :)

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Re: 81 RM400 vs PE400??
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2016, 08:10:26 pm »
A Pe 400 by a country mile... Trans is bullet proof, motor is as strong as a mally bull Shares the same frame and parts as a Pe 250
I have both....  Rm 400 T & Pe 400 X and prefer to ride the Pe as you don't have to work as hard to keep it under control.
 

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Re: 81 RM400 vs PE400??
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2016, 10:05:16 am »
There no such thing as a 81 RM400. 81 was a 465 and single shock. I think the PE is a good versatile bike though. You can also register it and go trail riding. RM can be a little hard to find gear box parts for these days. I would have a look back through the wanted ads on here over the bast few months as you can see a few guys have been struggling to find some parts.


RM 465 X is the bike to get.  The basic bike stayed more than competitive from 81 to 85.  It is a great Pre 85 bike.

Of course if you want the best 500 class bike of 1981 you have to buy a Maico 490 Mega 2.
MAICOS RULE DESPITE THE FOOLS

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Re: 81 RM400 vs PE400??
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2016, 07:38:34 pm »
husky 430, superb suspension, sublime handling and NO BRAKES :o great bike, thick on the ground for parts....great support at café husky

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Re: 81 RM400 vs PE400??
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2016, 07:51:25 pm »
husky 430, superb suspension, sublime handling and NO BRAKES :o great bike, thick on the ground for parts....great support at café husky

They must be good. Not many for sale.  ;)