EVO GUIDELINES

[worms]

IT AINT THAT HARD, evo can be year based, still with the general guidelines of oem, 1978 to 1982. if it dosent fit that it's pre 85 or then it fits pre 90. it's got to be year based, simple.

lets just race bikes as they were raced in the day, it's only the wankers that is stuffing it up. why cant people just accept the word NO and move to the next class. year based and it solved.

anyway, merry christmas.

Worms

[bazza]

Rules good or bad are the same for every one
 

[DR500]

I have an old 1981 DR500 with a 1980 RM front end. I fitted a 1980 front end because in 1981 i could have done it. In 1981 i couldn't have fitted a 1982 or newer front end because they hadn't made them yet. If EVO owner stick to using parts from  the year it was made, or older not newer, then i think everyone will be/may be happy.

[PEZBerq]

Of course you could have fitted it. You could have fitted an 82 RM front end in 1982 to your 81 DR! There is no inherent logic that fitting older parts is only permitted. In fact it seems weird except for the cost factor of course - why put old parts onto a newer bike when newer parts are available?

[DR500]

interesting how 1981 i could have fitted parts from a 1982 bike when they hadn't even made them
. Unless one has a time machine and is,nt 1982 from a rising rate full floater bike, which would be pre 85?

[YZ250H]

I've stayed out of this until now

Yep, pretty simple.  Keep the drum brakes, no water cooling and no linkage.  Pre 82 and name the other odd bikes in the rules that are beyond 82 that still fit the bill (I think someone mentioned a big bore husky and the odd KTM (?) )

Pretty simple stuff.  Yes I am an EVO rider (when my bikes are running  )

[09.0]

I've stayed out of this until now

Yep, pretty simple.  Keep the drum brakes, no water cooling and no linkage.  Pre 82 and name the other odd bikes in the rules that are beyond 82 that still fit the bill (I think someone mentioned a big bore husky and the odd KTM (?) )

Pretty simple stuff.  Yes I am an EVO rider (when my bikes are running  )

Pre '82 would include jap bikes with linkage rears.
Pre '81 is the cut off for most jap bikes. Then include the bikes such as Maico,Husky, Montesa, Yamaha etc maybe

[skypig]

I've stayed out of this until now

Yep, pretty simple.  Keep the drum brakes, no water cooling and no linkage.  Pre 82 and name the other odd bikes in the rules that are beyond 82 that still fit the bill (I think someone mentioned a big bore husky and the odd KTM (?) )

Pretty simple stuff.  Yes I am an EVO rider (when my bikes are running  )

Pre '82 would include jap bikes with linkage rears.
Pre '81 is the cut off for most jap bikes. Then include the bikes such as Maico,Husky, Montesa, Yamaha etc maybe

The post you quoted included "Keep the drum brakes, no water cooling and no linkage".

I think everyone (big call, I know!) agrees on those three elements.
Having the additional '82 cutoff would seem sensible, and in the spirit of the class. (Perhaps with named carry over models that were identical to their pre '82 siblings.)

If you couldn't fit it in '82, you can't fit it to an Evo bike.
It's "Evolution" before the "Revolution" of linkages, discs and water cooling.
It's Vintage Motocross.

[09.0]

I've stayed out of this until now

Yep, pretty simple.  Keep the drum brakes, no water cooling and no linkage.  Pre 82 and name the other odd bikes in the rules that are beyond 82 that still fit the bill (I think someone mentioned a big bore husky and the odd KTM (?) )

Pretty simple stuff.  Yes I am an EVO rider (when my bikes are running  )

Pre '82 would include jap bikes with linkage rears.
Pre '81 is the cut off for most jap bikes. Then include the bikes such as Maico,Husky, Montesa, Yamaha etc maybe

The post you quoted included "Keep the drum brakes, no water cooling and no linkage".

I think everyone (big call, I know!) agrees on those three elements.
Having the additional '82 cutoff would seem sensible, and in the spirit of the class. (Perhaps with named carry over models that were identical to their pre '82 siblings.)

If you couldn't fit it in '82, you can't fit it to an Evo bike.
It's "Evolution" before the "Revolution" of linkages, discs and water cooling.
It's Vintage Motocross.

You could easily say pre 90 with the same criteria then.

[skypig]

"You could easily say pre 90 with the same criteria then."

Yes you could, provided the bike had: no linkage, drum brakes and no water cooling stock.

However:
1. After '82 there were virtually no MX bikes made that meet that criteria.
2. Fitting parts, eg forks, from a later model bike, that didn't meet the criteria doesn't seem in the spirit of the class.

Once you can fit late model parts, you open up the "Frankenstein bike" can of worms.

If you include a sensible cutoff date, a question that would be self evident would be:
"Could you have made and raced that bike in 1982 (for eg)?" (Not if it has '90 model forks on it.)

I don't have an Evo bike (yet), but the class appeals on several levels. One being that many manufacturers produced models that can be reasonably competitive (under the current interpretation.) So you can satisfy the nostalgia for a certain brand, perhaps from your youth.
It's also an eara that appeals to some of us "wrong side of 50yo guys" that rode these bikes in the day, and realistically only have another 20 or 30 years of riding left in us

A strictly year based class like pre '78 favours any manufacturer that made a great gain in 1977, and disadvantages any manufacturer that hit the sweet spot in 1978. (Great advances each year from '73-'83.)

[shelpi]

have a frankenstien class and chuck all the bobbers in there, I remember as a kid raceing minibikes we had a special class!
if ya wanta play, anything goes, cheque book racer, do what ya want (no points) hod rod bikes, freedom of expresion, go for it, who cares, have fun! Class

[KTM47]

have a frankenstien class and chuck all the bobbers in there, I remember as a kid raceing minibikes we had a special class!
if ya wanta play, anything goes, cheque book racer, do what ya want (no points) hod rod bikes, freedom of expresion, go for it, who cares, have fun! Class

We don't need another class and I think the majority don't want it.

[Rossvickicampbell]

you could put another class in and let it self regulate - if you get lots of bikes - great - if not then..................................

[Nathan S]

There is already a class for 'Evo' bikes made from Pre-90 parts.
It's called Pre-90.

[evo550]

Cut off dates for EVO now Might as well get rid of pre '78 and EVO and just run a pre '80 class....
Pre '75, Pre '80, Pre '85 and so on....
Would get rid of this ongoing bollocks and one less class to run on a race day. Oh wait the poor Mega 2 riders would have to ride pre '85, so that'll never happen.