2016 MoMS out

[oz555ktm]

I nomaly stay a way from this But 

This will go on and the loser will be VMX

So I say that M A should add a New class to the MoMs ..

The New Class could be Called Super Twin Shock  All Ages Riders     
The Class should be    Twin shock Drum brake Air cooled Pre 90 Bike    .


and  Add a  Clear  set of rule to the  Evo  Class  Like ..what Heaven have put up

EVO   

16.15.12.1 Machines will be 1984 and older models originally manufactured before
                 31 Dec 1984 with 
                    a) Non linkage suspension
                    b) Drum brakes and 
                    c) Air cooled engines
                 Note, machines that comply with  a), b) and c) but not the cut off date can be
                 considered for MA for inclusion. eg DT175, CZ.

16.15.12.2 Converting later equipment to comply will not be allowed.

16.15.12.3 Machines will have all major components derived from models satisfying 16.15.12.1
                 and must remain externally unchanged.
                 Major components are :
                   a) Engine cases, barrel and head
                   b) Frames
                   c) Swingarms
                   d) Brakes, front and rear hubs c/w backing plates.
                   e) Forks and fork yokes.

                 The following can be considered by MA for use
                  a) Carry over components (those that have not substantially changed)
                      from models satisfying 16.15.12.1
                  b) Aftermarket components (or replicas) that where available for
                      machines satisfying 16.15.12.1
                  c) Replica replacement components
                  d) Replacement components that for safety reasons have been approved
                 The following can be considered by MA for use
                  a) Carry over components (those that have not substantially changed)
                      from models satisfying 16.15.12.1
                  b) Aftermarket components (or replicas) that where available for
                      machines satisfying 16.15.12.1
                  c) Replica replacement components
                  d) Replacement components that for safety reasons have been approved

16.15.12.4 Rear shock absorbers are free provided they are externally similar to those from the period

16.15.12.5 Carburetor's, flatslide (available up to 1984) and any round slide carburetor may be used.

16.15.12.6 All machines must be fitted with an effective muffler and comply
                 with sound control regulations in the GCR's

16.15.12.7 Folding (self returning) footrests must be fitted. Wider footpegs are permitted.

16.15.12.8 Countershaft sprocket covers must be fitted.

16.15.12.9 Handlebars must be equipped with a protection pad on the crossbar.
                 Handlebars not equipped with a crossbar must be equipped with a protection pad in
                 the middle of the handlebars covering the handlebar clamps.

This is a Win  Win
The Blokes who want to run a Evo Bike and add all the Fruit and Go Fast Bits  to it go race in Super Twin Shock
 and in Pre 90.   One Bike but 2 rides Happy Days .

The Bike Rider/Owner who want to run Evo as it was in the day Just like the other Class  .
ride in Evo .



That My bit 

In life there is a lot of things I would love to do... But we must have Strong Rules.... other Wise we just have a Shit Fight ..

Dennis

I keep seeing  Bad Spelling

[Ted]

After more than ten years the author still cannot spell it out in a clear concise manner understood by all.

[Nathan S]

Den, I pretty much agree. But if someone wants to build a special bike, they can run it in Pre-90. Why do they need their own class?

[oz555ktm]

Den, I pretty much agree. But if someone wants to build a special bike, they can run it in Pre-90. Why do they need their own class?

As I look at this I see that you have Blokes who want to ride a Twin Shock Bike but want it to ride Like a Pre 90 Bike ..Or Better

and they want to Add all the arfter market stuff to it and Mod it Up ...to make it a better Bike ...

and are Not happy to ride a OEM Bog Stock Evo Bike .

So the Rule Bending  will go on ....and I have see it Go On  over the Years ..

Yes I have Been a Member of a Vintage MX club since 1999 ..

and have seen the Rule bending going on ....

We was Told that we had to Have the Split . to have the time to run all Class !

1 More will not fill up the meeting ...Will It ..

and if you dont get the Numbers.. well it will be a Demo Race and the riders will be  still Happy  ..

But we still Keep and Perserve the Bikes as thay were Riden in the Day   In the EVO

[Nathan S]

Yep. And that's most of the problem: people who race old bikes who apparently don't like old bikes.

If someone wants to race a Pre-90 bike, then race Pre-90. If you want to race moderns, then race moderns.

[Tony.Brown]

After more than ten years the author still cannot spell it out in a clear concise manner understood by all.

Really Ted? You have to resort to slinging of at Dennis's grammatical/spelling skills? Is that really necessary?

[Ted]

I am not having a go at Dennis at all fella . I'm having a go at the fella who wrote the rules over ten years ago and still cannot put it in simple terms for all to understand.

I know Dennis can't spell and I've told him plenty of times. Ask him.

[Tony.Brown]

My mistake, and I apologise, that's just how it read.
Tony.

[oz555ktm]

After more than ten years the author still cannot spell it out in a clear concise manner understood by all.

Really Ted? You have to resort to slinging of at Dennis's grammatical/spelling skills? Is that really necessary?

I think that evey one know that I

Can Not Spell  for shit   ..... a 4th class schooling did not help ..

[Tony.Brown]

My mistake Dennis, I didn't know Ted knew you personally.

[Nathan S]

Doesn't EVERYONE know Dennis? He was the first bloke to introduce himself when I was wandering around glassy eyed at the first Heaven event I went to as a spectator all those years back.

[tymes]

I like reading Dennis' posts, I can modify the missing bits to change it into whatever I like.

Just like this riveting thread.

[William Doe]

Den, I pretty much agree. But if someone wants to build a special bike, they can run it in Pre-90. Why do they need their own class?

As I look at this I see that you have Blokes who want to ride a Twin Shock Bike but want it to ride Like a Pre 90 Bike ..Or Better

and they want to Add all the arfter market stuff to it and Mod it Up ...to make it a better Bike ...

and are Not happy to ride a OEM Bog Stock Evo Bike .

So the Rule Bending  will go on ....and I have see it Go On  over the Years ..

Yes I have Been a Member of a Vintage MX club since 1999 ..

and have seen the Rule bending going on ....

We was Told that we had to Have the Split . to have the time to run all Class !

1 More will not fill up the meeting ...Will It ..

and if you dont get the Numbers.. well it will be a Demo Race and the riders will be  still Happy  ..

But we still Keep and Perserve the Bikes as thay were Riden in the Day   In the EVO

A lot of common sense in there 

[William Doe]

Yep. And that's most of the problem: people who race old bikes who apparently don't like old bikes.

So bloody true  Oh the irony of it

[shelpi]

something like this perhaps!
Pre65 
Pre70   
pre75   
pre78   
Pre81            twin shock factory stock std inc yamaha cantilever, No disc, liquid, linkage or USD
Pre85   
Pre90   
Pre95  oh oh what have i done?