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Re: 2016 MoMS out
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2015, 05:28:46 pm »
Well, there will be a lot of reed valve Huskys missing at the titles in Qld this year because of that rule change :-\
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Re: 2016 MoMS out
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2015, 05:49:16 pm »
So the poor under competitive 1974 125cc Hodaka Super Combat with OEM reed valve now has race in Pre78 too?????????

Sad, even taking into the obvious curses of older age and shitty health,   any wonder me and well, lots of others from earlier VMX years , are dispersing off to follow other pastimes.  Seems the powers that be just to want to just piss us off    ..... permanently.....  Tim754


Now I am off to work on my 45mm (Gauge 1 or "G" gauge)  Garden Railway I am building in the backyard. Actually right on the area where I taught my sons and daughter to ride the Z50a all those years ago.  ;)
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Re: 2016 MoMS out
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2015, 05:57:48 pm »
Fair suck on the sauce bottle MA!
And there I was stupidly thinking that there was going to be some sensible changes made.

Where the hell did these set of rule changes conjure up from? Is it just to piss the punters off with even more ambuguity, again?

There is absolutely no sense in not allowing reed valves in Pre75. Not only are the Husky's sent to the junk pile, but all those with GEM reeds etc. that took ages to get running right are now obsolete. Just for the record, the cylinders for those bikes with aftermarket reeds are useless without the reeds. They are ported to work with reeds. And what about the bikes with OEM rotary valve set ups? STUPID!

As for Evo having a cut off date of Pre90, what the hell purpose does that serve? Just as a quick guide, I can now take a 1989 CR250, modify the swingarm and sub frame for twin shocks, use drum brake hubs, stick an air cooled CR500 motor in it and go racing.....no questions asked! WTF?

Welcome to pommy land racing folks!

Another question....What will happen to the booming Pre90 class now that those bikes can be butchered out of existence?

Stay away from the blue pills and go back to the red ones FFS.
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Re: 2016 MoMS out
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2015, 05:58:09 pm »
You'll be in Evo Tim. Only 75/76/77 in Pre 78
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Re: 2016 MoMS out
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2015, 06:02:28 pm »
"You'll be in Evo Tim. Only 75/76/77 in Pre 78"   umm  Thanks Ted for the correction .... think I'll have to pass on that one :o :o :o ::)
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Re: 2016 MoMS out
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2015, 06:06:16 pm »
Just canceled the holidays between CD and the Ozzie titles, will be just going to CD now and not staying up in Qld for the "titles"
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Re: 2016 MoMS out
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2015, 06:07:01 pm »
I should of kept the KTM USD drum brake fork I sold 2 weeks ago. Would of gone well on the CR250RZ

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Re: 2016 MoMS out
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2015, 06:08:06 pm »
Fair suck on the sauce bottle MA!
And there I was stupidly thinking that there was going to be some sensible changes made.

Where the hell did these set of rule changes conjure up from? Is it just to piss the punters off with even more ambuguity, again?

There is absolutely no sense in not allowing reed valves in Pre75. Not only are the Husky's sent to the junk pile, but all those with GEM reeds etc. that took ages to get running right are now obsolete. Just for the record, the cylinders for those bikes with aftermarket reeds are useless without the reeds. They are ported to work with reeds. And what about the bikes with OEM rotary valve set ups? STUPID!

As for Evo having a cut off date of Pre90, what the hell purpose does that serve? Just as a quick guide, I can now take a 1989 CR250, modify the swingarm and sub frame for twin shocks, use drum brake hubs, stick an air cooled CR500 motor in it and go racing.....no questions asked! WTF?

Welcome to pommy land racing folks!

Another question....What will happen to the booming Pre90 class now that those bikes can be butchered out of existence?

Stay away from the blue pills and go back to the red ones FFS.

The 250 Sexmax and Open class Tedmax will be in stores early January. Taking orders now.
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Re: 2016 MoMS out
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2015, 06:10:24 pm »
Just canceled the holidays between CD and the Ozzie titles, will be just going to CD now and not staying up in Qld for the "titles"

Lucky I grew tired of 2 strokes and have a couple of four bangers to ride or I'd be in the same boat
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Re: 2016 MoMS out
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2015, 06:11:19 pm »
13.14.6.2 Modifications converting later equipment to comply will not be allowed.

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Re: 2016 MoMS out
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2015, 06:13:29 pm »
The 250 Sexmax and Open class Tedmax will be in stores early January. Taking orders now.

And there we all were thinking that you and Nathan were just stirring S&%t all that time..... It is now a stark reality  >:(
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Re: 2016 MoMS out
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2015, 06:14:58 pm »
13.14.6.2 Modifications converting later equipment to comply will not be allowed.

"later equipment" would now be anything manufactured after 31/12/89
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Re: 2016 MoMS out
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2015, 06:17:33 pm »
If it doesn't bolt on without modification, then it won't pass.

The Pre 75 Reed exclusion is rather curious though, and not very well thought out.

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Re: 2016 MoMS out
« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2015, 06:20:06 pm »
13.14.6.2 Modifications converting later equipment to comply will not be allowed.

Correct Greg. But if you start with a 89 model nothing before that is later equipment. You simply take your 89 frame and modify it, as it is current, not later. Remove the linkage shock setup and engineer a non linkage shock in its place. Dead fukn easy to do.

And then there is the carryover clause written in the rules. Use a 2000 XR 630 motor. Dead fukn easy as well.

How do you feel about your 250 B being bumped up to Evo now? A 74 racing against 89's. Sounds about right
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Re: 2016 MoMS out
« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2015, 06:22:36 pm »
If it doesn't bolt on without modification, then it won't pass.

The Pre 75 Reed exclusion is rather curious though, and not very well thought out.

Bullshit. An XT, TT , XR motor in any frame, not particularly it's own, is permissible now and always has been.
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