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pe250c 1978.
« on: July 18, 2008, 06:14:45 pm »
Did Oz delivered PE250C 1978 model come with blinkers fitted?

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Re: pe250c 1978.
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2008, 10:23:47 am »
What  ???. All these Suzuki mad blokes kicking around the forum and no one know the answer to this question.  :'( I dont believe it. One of you must know.  :o
I can only find info on US models which show no blinkers. Oz model was rego legal im assuming by 78 it must of had blinkers to comply to ADR's. True? Not true? Anyone!!

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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2008, 01:06:48 pm »
Looks like they didnt. My PE250C has two small switch blocks, one on right side of the bars, one on the left. Right side is on/off headlight. Left side high/low beam. Wires only to headlight, tailight and speedo as well running to brake light switch on pedal and front brake lever. Thats about it. Nothing cut, harness looks complete and original.

My PE250T on other hand has just one switch block on left side of the bars. It combo switch, headlight on/off, high/low beam, horn, blinkers all one block. The 250T also has a lot more wiring in the harness then the 250C.

This is wiring harness for 250B which looks exactly the same as my 250C..

http://www.angelfire.com/pe/250/wiring.html


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Re: pe250c 1978.
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2008, 01:12:05 pm »
Quicky from my foggy memory which could be way wrong the blinkers were avaialable in a kit form as an accessorie and not standard . That would explain the lack of wiring

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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2008, 01:16:13 pm »
 im sure they came with blinkers  but i have never seen on with them on .i have a few sets of them the lug thats on the rear frame loop is where the are mounted i dont have any wiring diagrams for the aus model only usa

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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2008, 01:28:34 pm »
I should clarrify that  reply a bit. The bikes arrived in Oz blinkerless but in order to appease the  beaurocrats at  the rego office they were fitted with  the tiny removeable  blinkers to get past the rego rules.

 they had small tin brackets with slip on rubber mounts

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Re: pe250c 1978.
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2008, 02:48:59 pm »
my answer is NO, NOT on 78 models. as far as i am aware the first PE's with blinkers were the 79 'N' models sold in NSW. other states followed soon after that. the bikes only would of had blinkers fitted from factory. they required extra wiring, different stator, a battery, different lever perches, and brackets on the frame for rear blinkers. i find it hard to believe that suzuki australia would of modified standard 78 or 79 bikes once they got here so they could run blinkers. they would not of gone and welded brackets on the frame for the rear blinkers and welded brackets for the battery holder. that was all done at japan. by the time the rules required blinkers suzuki AUS would of send a list of requirements to japan and the bikes came out here all set up with blinkers on them. the 79 models had blinkers from the factory, well at least the ones sold in NSW but im yet to find a aus spec 79 brochure showing blinkers and i doubt they would of brought out one brochure specifically for NSW. 1980 was the first year all states got blinkers on PE's and i have many brochures of the australian spec PE's of 1980 showing these fitted
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2008, 03:15:52 pm »
my answer is NO, NOT on 78 models. as far as i am aware the first PE's with blinkers were the 79 'N' models sold in NSW. other states followed soon after that. the bikes only would of had blinkers fitted from factory. they required extra wiring, different stator, a battery, different lever perches, and brackets on the frame for rear blinkers. i find it hard to believe that suzuki australia would of modified standard 78 or 79 bikes once they got here so they could run blinkers. they would not of gone and welded brackets on the frame for the rear blinkers and welded brackets for the battery holder. that was all done at japan. by the time the rules required blinkers suzuki AUS would of send a list of requirements to japan and the bikes came out here all set up with blinkers on them. the 79 models had blinkers from the factory, well at least the ones sold in NSW but im yet to find a aus spec 79 brochure showing blinkers and i doubt they would of brought out one brochure specifically for NSW. 1980 was the first year all states got blinkers on PE's and i have many brochures of the australian spec PE's of 1980 showing these fitted

Thank you!. I guess if I want to put it on road I can without blinkers? I would rather have them for safty sake.

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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2008, 03:28:00 pm »
Quicky Your 78/9? would/ should have a compliance plate? beware trying to rego a non comply one. ;)
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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2008, 03:28:43 pm »
I should clarrify that  reply a bit. The bikes arrived in Oz blinkerless but in order to appease the  beaurocrats at  the rego office they were fitted with  the tiny removeable  blinkers to get past the rego rules.

 they had small tin brackets with slip on rubber mounts


Like these? I got em off ebay long time ago. Ment to be PE. They are labled PE.

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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2008, 03:29:21 pm »
Quicky Your 78/9? would/ should have a compliance plate? beware trying to rego a non comply one. ;)

Yes mate ID plate still attached.  ;)

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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2008, 03:37:10 pm »
the PE250C didn't come with blinkers. It may need blinkers now though. Another reason I like the pre75's back in the day there was no compliance and you could register near anything so long as it basically had a headlight, a horn and brake light ;) ah the good ol' days were so simple, then they had to go and complicate things by introducing the ADR system ::)

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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2008, 03:38:07 pm »
Yes they are the lights ,very handy little units. and seemingly you could be OK to rego that bike without indicators same as my SL70. But as you said safety.  ;)
Hey Doc My SL70 has a compliance (K2 1973 models all did) but were not ever fitted with indicators like the Z50s with a plate. Sort of confusing or what. Follow on model the XL70 had indicators but some did not have the comp plate!!!!
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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2008, 03:39:46 pm »
This is the bike.
Its clean original with great engine. Would it be difficult to add blinkers to it or would be better off looking at using my 250T? Problem with T is no lights on it or speedo and missing the pipe. Could the complete harness from the T used on the C model? Would that solve the blinker problem?







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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2008, 03:49:25 pm »
The part about no prevision for a battery and charging said item makes  working   indicators a hard problem. Changing the wiring would  not fix that I am sure. Only one I ever made road worthy for registration ,I fitted a total loss battery system for the extra lighting, This bike was not used around "town" but as a sweep bike for Enduros and required full rego. Tim
« Last Edit: July 20, 2008, 03:02:05 pm by Tim754 »
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