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Offline Nathan S

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Does a TS185 motor fit into a PE175C?
« on: March 06, 2015, 01:27:05 pm »
As per the title, including exhaust and carby size/location.

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Re: Does a TS185 motor fit into a PE175C?
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2015, 03:53:04 pm »
Why the heck would you want to do a fool thing like that Nathan?


 Iffff your desperate or the lobotomy isnt working well than i guess it would. Ive seen one (silver engine) in a RM125 frame and thats what the PE175 are based on.

Now you know go have a good lie down and forget about it before someone comes with a white coat with very long sleeves and buckles down the back.
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Re: Does a TS185 motor fit into a PE175C?
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2015, 04:07:51 pm »
Has anyone built an "RL185"? 8)
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Re: Does a TS185 motor fit into a PE175C?
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2015, 04:33:33 pm »
No for the later reed engine (center port exhaust) but probably for a side port engine '76 model
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Re: Does a TS185 motor fit into a PE175C?
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2015, 05:02:00 pm »
There was such a bike advertised on Gumtree a few months ago (home-built trials bike based on early (side port) TS185 and it looked pretty good too
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Re: Does a TS185 motor fit into a PE175C?
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2015, 07:18:28 pm »
n0 as the ts185jklma m0t0r is t00 l0ng where the rm/pe m0t0r is al0t sh0rter but y0u can put a 185 pist0n in the 175 b0re when y0ur 0ut 0f 0/size 175 pist0ns and 1.5/2mm wisc0s
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Re: Does a TS185 motor fit into a PE175C?
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2015, 08:00:25 pm »
Lol pokey: cheap non-running PE and cheap running TS...

But I missed out on the TS, so we'll see.
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Re: Does a TS185 motor fit into a PE175C?
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2015, 08:26:59 pm »
It would have more bottom end but thats about it unless you work the hell out of the engine.

 i think i have a spare engine and pipe but getting it to the south coast could be the issue.
I see them on ebay in melbourne fairly cheap  most of the time.
 if your really set on it and cant find anything you know where I am.

 id maybe look for maybe an XR200 and play with that engine. could be a nice rider.
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Re: Does a TS185 motor fit into a PE175C?
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2015, 08:35:24 pm »
Saint, I had a half assed attempt at a TS/RL185 using an old TS185ER. What stopped me in my tracks was after I'd re-positioned the footpegs up and back (instead of under and forward) I couldn't use the kickstarter ??? never thought of that ::) Needless to say it went no further :(
 
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Re: Does a TS185 motor fit into a PE175C?
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2015, 08:46:33 pm »
Quote from: saint on March 06, 2015, 04:07:51 pm
Has anyone built an "RL185"? 8)

A guy in NZ did one on the early/mid 70's. used a 250 ignition for the heavier flywheel. made a pipe, small seat, moved the pegs, made an airbox, plastic guards etc. I don't know if he de-raked it or not. He rode it for a while then bought an RL250
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Re: Does a TS185 motor fit into a PE175C?
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2015, 06:51:07 pm »
 Does a TS185 motor fit into a PE175C?

No.
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Re: Does a TS185 motor fit into a PE175C?
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2015, 10:26:52 pm »
Quote from: saint on March 06, 2015, 04:07:51 pm
Has anyone built an "RL185"? 8)
I have just remembered such a trials bike made from a TS185ER. I will post a couple of photos of it on Trials Australia here http://www.trials.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=9807
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Re: Does a TS185 motor fit into a PE175C?
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2015, 07:21:17 am »
I was thinking more along the lines of an early TS185 engine in an RL250 frame.........
(If that had been done before)
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Re: Does a TS185 motor fit into a PE175C?
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2015, 08:58:22 am »
Quote from: saint on March 08, 2015, 07:21:17 am
I was thinking more along the lines of an early TS185 engine in an RL250 frame.........
(If that had been done before)
I would be pretty surprised if someone would replace the RL250 motor which is very good for trials with any other motor unless all they had was a bike with no motor.
I've seen photos of an early 1970s Bultaco trials bike with a sideport Suzuki TS250 (I think) motor (bike built in the 1970s) and am currently working on building a similar bike myself. It is likely that early RL250 prototypes used Bultaco Sherpa T frames
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Re: Does a TS185 motor fit into a PE175C?
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2015, 09:23:43 am »
I found the photo of the Suzuki motor in the Sherpa T frame
http://progress-is-fine.blogspot.com.au/2012/07/sammy-miller-suzuki-trials.html
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