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Offline Digga

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« on: January 27, 2015, 11:53:03 am »
As a relative newcomer to the VMX scene, I was wondering whether to add a little more flair/awareness to these National title meetings, where the annivaresy number should be included in the title naming?

I know that the 1st PCVMX titles fell over which makes the 2014 Toowoomba meeting the innaugural 1st Aust PCVMX titles & Ravo will be the 2nd, but what about the CVMX titles?

I have no idea what numebr they are up to 5th, 10th, 15th, 20th etc but would be nice to see that in the advertising of the event (via the web, flyers etc) with WA later this year being a good example.

Believe it or not, any event that has a special anniversary (1st, 10th, 20th, 50th etc....) does attract a few more 'maybies' who might give an event a miss if it wanst a special anniversary.

Just my opinion, any thoughts?  :-\
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2015, 12:13:09 pm »
FWIW, I think its a great idea Digga, just like the Classic Dirts.
When someone talks about CD5 or CD10, I instantly reflect the venue and memorable moments :)
Its makes it more than just another CD
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Re: CVMX & PCVMX
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2015, 12:40:37 pm »
Yes, exaclty like CD. It has a ring to it & becomes a collectable memory or talking point which attracts others to these special ones.

Reckon Supersenior Col knows what number CVMX they're up to for this years WA event  ;)
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2015, 01:02:44 pm »
Good idea, I'll get the facts right and see if the idea flies.

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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2015, 01:36:23 pm »
Reckon you would have been in shorts & at primary school for the first one Col  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2015, 03:56:32 pm »
Mate I started racing mx in 1963, having raced cars on and off since 1956-do the math :-)

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Re: CVMX & PCVMX
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2015, 04:24:36 pm »
As a relative newcomer to the VMX scene, I was wondering whether to add a little more flair/awareness to these National title meetings, where the annivaresy number should be included in the title naming?

I know that the 1st PCVMX titles fell over which makes the 2014 Toowoomba meeting the innaugural 1st Aust PCVMX titles & Ravo will be the 2nd, but what about the CVMX titles?

I have no idea what numebr they are up to 5th, 10th, 15th, 20th etc but would be nice to see that in the advertising of the event (via the web, flyers etc) with WA later this year being a good example.

Believe it or not, any event that has a special anniversary (1st, 10th, 20th, 50th etc....) does attract a few more 'maybies' who might give an event a miss if it wanst a special anniversary.

Just my opinion, any thoughts?  :-\

Digga  The first thing I believe we should do is get the name right. There is no V (for Vintage).  there are the

1.  Australian Classic Motocross Championships (ACMXC)

2.  Australian Post Classic Motocross Championships (APCMXC)

I remember someone saying the first Classic MX Champs was Dargle 1995 so it could be 20 years.

As for the Post Classic, Toowoomba was the third attempt.

Tasmania 2012 (what a joke that was never going to happen) and Lakes in NSW 2013 (no camping and modern track)

However EVO and Pre 85 were run in with the Classic MX Champs at Conondale in 2011.

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Re: CVMX & PCVMX
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2015, 04:36:02 pm »
I think I remembered wrong with that year for CMXC.  I think it was Dargle 1991.  So next year 2016 is 25 years.

Having just said that someone (who is going to use Dargle this year) should maybe start planning for the 25th anniversary at Dargle in 2016.

Just my thoughts and the facts need to be checked first.
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2015, 05:12:58 pm »
I think I'm correct but will verify
1990 Dargle, maybe first MA sanctioned one Ravenswood 1991 but hold fire until frified

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Re: CVMX & PCVMX
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2015, 05:15:14 pm »
???verified, can't even blame spellcheck

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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2015, 05:43:37 pm »
NP, thx Kevin  ;)

So BMCC can advertise their APCMXC in April as "the 2nd Nats" & WA can do the same with their ACMXC event later this as the 24th, 25th or whatever Col comes up with  ;D
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2015, 10:28:24 am »
Ok, I'm pretty sure this is it.
   1991 Dargle NSW
   1992 Ravenswood Victoria
   1993 Pt Kembla NSW
  '91 &'92 were run by a band of enthusiasts including Firko, the Clark family of Bendigo, Bill Holm of Qld and others.
   '93 was the first MA sanctioned Australian Classic Championship
    1994 Cherabah Qld
    1995 Tanunda SA
    1996 Barrabool Vict.
 1991 is accepted by the vintage fraternity as a National title, so for the purpose of this exercise I reckon we take that as the starting point. We are getting the full list together and will put it up.
    So, WA can advertise this one as the 24th Australian Classic Motocross Championship if they so choose.

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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2015, 10:31:31 am »
Be interesting to see how many "originals" from that Dargle event will be at Busselton

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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2015, 11:13:27 am »
The 91 Nats at Dargle was fully paid for and promoted by me with a little on day help from Penrith club but the club refused to put any money into it, thinking it would be a flop. I got a boutique brewery "Brewers" on board to sponsor the advertising and supply the beer for the post race celebrations, Geoff Eldridge at ADB supplied the trophies and program layout but I paid the printing costs for posters and programs. Rick Doughty came out from the USA, paid for I think by GE. MA refused to ratify the event as a legitimate Aussie title, mainly because we weren't using the accepted class systems. There was some very lengthy and heated back room negotiations to try and get ratification but they wouldn't budge. We still went ahead with the meeting but rather than call it the Australian Vintage Motocross Championships, we called it the Vintage Motocross Nationals, or Nats for short. Despite the Naysayers and pissing rain on the Saturday, the meeting attracted well over 100 entries from all over Australia, the USA and NZ and was a rousing success.

For 1992 Brian Clarke and Bendigo club took the batten and in the year leading up to it he and his club submitted the age group and bike era classes that MA had previously disagreed with and got them approved and applied for and got the date at Ravenswood at Easter '92. That meeting was a huge success with two racers from the USA and two from NZ as well as 150+ entries.......and the rest is history. I agree with any attempts to celebrate the history of this great event.
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Re: CVMX & PCVMX
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2015, 11:55:14 am »
What a great enlightenment Firko, thank you. On way more than one account i might add.

I have crossed paths with some people that are pretty excited about Dargyle coming back on line too.

Amazing stuff all round :) 8)
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