I'm dead set disgusted

[jerry]

I think if religion was invented today it wouldn't get a look in. I was christened in a Catholic Church to appease my grandparents I think. After that my parents never encouraged any church going or religious indoctrination. For that I am very grateful. Just as an aside I have been in many Muslim households through my work as a paramedic. Without exception I have been impressed with the cleanliness of the home the respect for us as paramedics and the behaviour of the children etc. I wish I could say the same for every Aussie home I've been in. Just saying. J

[Nathan S]

What's the argument against Christmas decorations?

Christmas and Easter are culturally and legally enshrined, but their religious aspects are socially irrelevant nowdays.
This is why "Merry Christmas" is not under attack: "Christmas" is it's own event, distinct from the religion-specific "Happy Birthday to the Jewish Zombie".
Most of the "Happy Holidays" nonsense comes from outraged Christian groups who are offended that the religious aspect is marginalised, and it's their way of trying to refocus the event on Christianity.

So yeah: I'm happy that references to Jesus and God are not allowed in public schools (outside of secular RE classes), just as I'm happy that references to Allah or Vishnu are not allowed.

[jerry]

I'm with you Nathan. J

[oldyzman]

Just a question, Who is in favour of Australia having an Islamic state?

[Nathan S]

Just a question, Who is in favour of Australia having an Islamic state?

Nobody.
Well, you might find some Muslims who do, but as part of the Muslim population they're a minority. As part of the total population, they're an utterly irrelevant minority.

Yes, we need to stay vigilant and protect our way of life and our tolerance, but there's no threat to that from Islam in the foreseeable future.
The bigger threat is that otherwise sane Australians will get caught up in the hype and become far more extreme than the vast majority of Muslims.
The even bigger threat to our way of life are draconian "anti-bikie" and "anti-terrorism" laws that could all too easily apply to people who are neither terrorists or bikies.

[oldyzman]

Nathan, have you lived in sydney in the last few years mate... Take a walk through Blacktown, Eastlakes or Lakemba...

[Nathan S]

Nathan, have you lived in sydney in the last few years mate... Take a walk through Blacktown, Eastlakes or Lakemba...

F$%k no. Turd of a place. And not because of the Muslims.

http://gawker.com/fox-news-apologizes-for-impressively-dumb-and-wrong-isl-1680272051

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/20/paris-mayor-anne-hidalgo-muslim-no-go-zones

[Iain Cameron]

Nathan there are already City parts in Europe that are fully Moslem , from schools , courts (scharia) , MP , churches , shopping centres . All fully Halal .  Duesseldorf already has the Scharia Police  . In Berlin you can not go into certain quarters anymore .  Its on the move .  The only clean spot I still now is the Reeperbahn in Hamburg . 

Reeperbahn mmm naughty been there done that .Iain

[80-85 husky]

quick left turn here and probably the hidden issue for us in aus is the "ice epidemic" sweeping the place.
A local builder just went bust ...turns out he has a 7K a week ice habit...not just kids

[oldyzman]

Ice
Yep, the ice problem is massive. The good old heroin gave them plenty of time to get addicted, get off it and took a real long time to kill someone. Ice is ten times faster on all facets.

[Kane Mcguire]

There are a lot of people on here I see goosestepping behind Adolf blaming ALL Jews ALL Books ALL Gays ALL Criminals ALL Gypsies ALL the Mentally ill for societies problems. ( Is there any I left out that he didn't gas?)
History is supposed to teach us.

[FourstrokeForever]

I had no idea that this thread would become 8 pages worth. It seems there are plenty of us here that don't want Australia to be dragged down any further by our law makers.
We are only but a handful of people on here. I wonder just how many feel the same out in the real world....

Ice
Yep, the ice problem is massive. The good old heroin gave them plenty of time to get addicted, get off it and took a real long time to kill someone. Ice is ten times faster on all facets.

While I don't necessarily agree with the death penalty, It's good to know that the fools who choose, that's right, CHOOSE to play with ICE or HEROIN, are on a one way path to the ground. That way, it gives them less opportunity to come and rip me off or to interfere with my life in some other way. As for the arseholes that are making and selling the stuff, they should get life in prison. After all is said and done, the makers and dealers are committing the end users to a life sentence.

The even bigger threat to our way of life are draconian "anti-bikie" and "anti-terrorism" laws that could all too easily apply to people who are neither terrorists or bikies.

And all the paper reading, news watching believers, do gooders of the nation think that these laws are for the good of society. It's now illegal to ride in a group on QLD roads, whether you're a bikie or not. Argue with the cops for them impounding your pride n joy, and you're off for a night in the cells. No doubt with a bit of a touch up as well. Even walking down the street, if the coppers say you and your mates look like a gang of some sort, they drag you off to the cells for that too.
If the cops decide they don't like you, for whatever reason, they can say that you are SUSPECTED to have terrorist links or are a sympathiser and drag you off to jail for 30 days without arrest.
Go to an airport and mention the word bomb, knife, gun or some other form of violence, even if you are just stirring shit with your mates or Mrs or whoever, the chances are you will miss your flight and probably have to endure a cavity search as well.
Our way of life, you know, the aussie take the piss out of everything, joking, larikin, she'll be right attitude is a thing of the past.
I'm still disgusted.....

[Tomas]

Non of this is an issue in  Eastern Europe or Russia. Hmm, wondering why?

[Kane Mcguire]

fourstrokeforever, you are doing just what we expect, bend the truth to suit your hysterics.  A person suspected of terrorism can be held for 14 days without charge not 30. And while there maybe overzealous police on the beat, it is not illegal to ride in groups in Qld and if you are not associated with the 26 gangs that are named in legislation no prob.

[oldyzman]

want Australia to be dragged down any further by our law makers.
We are only but a handful of people on here. I wonder just how many feel the same out in the real world....


My View on above:
I think a lot feel the same way deep down, We are trained to be politically correct, have freedom of speech -but don't bag the minority. Some just cannot be bothered to put the energy into these opinions as there is no use. Others have not seen what some have to influence thoughts.