I'm dead set disgusted

[FourstrokeForever]

Interesting comments FourStrokeForever. My understanding of Halal slaughter is that animals should be alive and conscious when slaughtered. In Australia, I thought it was required that an animal be stunned to unconsciousness before slaughter. To be Halal, a reversible stun should be applied, which means that in effect, the animal is sort of not unconscious when slaughtered. Some abattoirs have exemptions so that they can kill the animal first (or more exactly, cut its throat) and THEN apply the stun, which is more properly Halal.

The way you describe it, there's no stunning going on in your abattoir?

That's right Graeme, the beasts were totally awake. The only stunning done was to get them up the race that led to the almighty Halal dude (not a word I usually use but I don't want to call him a man) so he could bless it and slash it's throat.
If more Australians were aware of what goes on in OUR own backyard in regard to slaughtering animals for Halal, they would be in tears and screaming blue murder.
I quit the abbs job before I ended up in jail by confronting Halal dude and throttling the life out of it.

[Tex]

We should be adding value by slaughtering them here, which has the benefit of ensuing they are slaughtered humanely.
But no. This is Australia. We do to think like that. We'd prefer to ship the raw materials away and let someone else get all the value-add

My understanding is that the recipients strongly prefer to have this task performed on their own soil. They may also feel more secure about the slaughtering being performed exactly to their requirements.

15 suicides as a direct result sounds like bullsh to me.

 

No, it's probably not far off.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-02/suicide-rate-disgusts-rural-gp/5421896

Tex

[Matador107]

I believe one of the reasons that live cattle have to be exported is the lack of refrigeration in a lot of rural areas overseas. So keep it fresh on the hoof,and kill it locally, then sell on the spot.

[tymes]

Seen that thing on our Coon cheese, looks like its the end for that cheese in our house.

[Graeme M]

That's right Graeme, the beasts were totally awake. The only stunning done was to get them up the race that led to the almighty Halal dude (not a word I usually use but I don't want to call him a man) so he could bless it and slash it's throat.
If more Australians were aware of what goes on in OUR own backyard in regard to slaughtering animals for Halal, they would be in tears and screaming blue murder.
I quit the abbs job before I ended up in jail by confronting Halal dude and throttling the life out of it.

That's a shame to hear that, but it's what I expected. There are always rules that everyone can point to but they are often not enforced. I bet that when it comes to this Islamic appeasement policy, decent standards are simply abandoned.

As for live export, well, I'm sorry, but I cannot agree that it is in any way a decent thing to do. What we do to animals in the name of food entertainment is bad enough, but when you add in this live export/halal crap, well... I'm ashamed of my kind.

The argument that it's money or a livelihood is an ethically barren argument. You could argue that for any activity - sometimes what's right should transcend money. And mistreating animals in that way is not right.

[Nathan S]

I wasn't questioning the suicide rate of farmers.
I live twenty minutes from the very small town/locality that was known as Australia's "Suicide Capital" during the drought of the early-mid '00s - my town is one of the corners of the "suicide triangle"...

Similarly, talking to Relfy about his experiences is part of what motivated me to do the whole A4DE thing.

What I was doubting was that there were 15 suicides as a direct result of the banning of live exports.

The whole thing was handled very poorly - and ironically, the government of the day's first decision (to ban live exports to the abattoirs that were known to slaughter inhumanely) was the best - with time to reflect, they then went and buggered it up with a heavy-handed blanket ban.

[William Doe]

Yep, I see it all the time. I've seen obvious immigrants pull up beside the road to change the baby nappies and leave the crap where it lands. I've even seen 1 kid bein allowed to take a dump in the gutter of a city street, wipe his arse and leave the paper there too. No wonder I hate having to go into town. Oh, by the way, I'm not racist, I hate everybody equally.

I know your joking about not being a racist  but that is a phrase I hear all to often in sincerity

I hate it when people voice an opinion about something  and immediately feel the need to follow it up with

"im not a racist " purely because their comment was directed at a (supposed) minority . These bastards love all that shit and even worse those it gives those limp dicked do gooding scum who pedal this PC shit a woody every time they read that phrase .

The reality is if somebody is behaving badly ( as described above ) and they are immigrants then its perfectly ok to say and print that they are immigrants .

Also when did you last see a true blue Aussie kid shitting in the gutter or chucking dirty nappies down the freeway ?

This Halal bullshit is a minor problem in the scheme of things , a much bigger problem is people playing into the hands of the PC scum by apologising without cause .

You listen when your out and see how many people do it and do it with embarrassment 

Don't call people racist names but if a problem with an individual arises and they are not Australian then say so and say so with pride  If the people of that race choose to take exception then best they get their kind to clean up their act .

I don't know what the country's coming to  I even saw Aussies getting into Chad Reed because he gave a prick a dig     

[Mike52]

My understanding is that the recipients strongly prefer to have this task performed on their own soil. They may also feel more secure about the slaughtering being performed exactly to their requirements.
Tex

Friend of mine was the  Halal butcher at the local abattoir here in Qld.

When he first came to Auzzy he had a chip and no sense of humor , now , after 30 years of us takin the piss he is a pretty good sort of guy with a wicked sense of humor.
Rides a 1199 Panigale.

[shortshifter]

this is all about religious imperialism of
islam which appears particularly intolerant of other religions and democratically governed nations and in it's most radical form wants the world united under one god and with every facet of life controlled by a few all omnipotent imans.The corporate culture sublimates itself to their belief structure because there is a buck to be made.Disgusted by this latest news you bet,surprised not really

[Mick D]

Well stuffed if I'm gunna sign up to become a goat tail lifter.
And I won't be strapping dynamite to myself so I can score 73 virgins that ugly that you have to cover their faces with a black rag.
If you cant accept that we all ready have a way of life, grab ya tents and fuk back off to the sand dunes..

[Momus]

Yep, I see it all the time. I've seen obvious immigrants pull up beside the road to change the baby nappies and leave the crap where it lands. I've even seen 1 kid bein allowed to take a dump in the gutter of a city street, wipe his arse and leave the paper there too. No wonder I hate having to go into town. Oh, by the way, I'm not racist, I hate everybody equally.

I know your joking about not being a racist  but that is a phrase I hear all to often in sincerity

I hate it when people voice an opinion about something  and immediately feel the need to follow it up with

"im not a racist " purely because their comment was directed at a (supposed) minority . These bastards love all that shit and even worse those it gives those limp dicked do gooding scum who pedal this PC shit a woody every time they read that phrase .

The reality is if somebody is behaving badly ( as described above ) and they are immigrants then its perfectly ok to say and print that they are immigrants .

Also when did you last see a true blue Aussie kid shitting in the gutter or chucking dirty nappies down the freeway ?

This Halal bullshit is a minor problem in the scheme of things , a much bigger problem is people playing into the hands of the PC scum by apologising without cause .

You listen when your out and see how many people do it and do it with embarrassment 

Don't call people racist names but if a problem with an individual arises and they are not Australian then say so and say so with pride  If the people of that race choose to take exception then best they get their kind to clean up their act .

I don't know what the country's coming to  I even saw Aussies getting into Chad Reed because he gave a prick a dig 

Yes a lot more respect for the Anglo Saxon/European traditions and ethics this great country was founded on.

Along with that should come a healthy dose of race realism; objectively not all cultures and peoples are equal.

[yamaico]

Well stuffed if I'm gunna sign up to become a goat tail lifter.
And I won't be strapping dynamite to myself so I can score 73 virgins that ugly that you have to cover their faces with a black rag.
If you cant accept that we all ready have a way of life, grab ya tents and fuk back off to the sand dunes..

Nowhere is it mentioned to the martyrs that the 73 virgins are women, Mick
Similar to the Greeks bragging that they invented sex - they may well have but it was greatly improved when the French put women into the equation
Anyway, I digress, sorry for the hijack....

[80-85 husky]

Susan Boyles revelation that she was a virgin saw suicide bomb school enrolments drop significantly!

[Mike52]

Susan Boyles revelation that she was a virgin saw suicide bomb school enrolments drop significantly!

The day Magna Svanski came out was a sad day for mankind.

[Momus]

Susan Boyles revelation that she was a virgin saw suicide bomb school enrolments drop significantly!

And what of the female suicide bombers who are declared martyrs? Long line of 72 blokes  in that heavenly gang bang..