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Re: I'm dead set disgusted
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2015, 11:50:41 am »
I won't even buy a kebab, i would rather starve. I am sick of this crap, other religions are practiced in Australia aswell and don't try to tell us how to act or what we should eat etc.

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« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2015, 11:59:07 am »
Buying Australian is harder and harder by the day.
I'm happy to pay more for Aussie made stuff, but I watch the options evaporate every time I go shopping.

I'd buy Aussie made Halal food over imported non-Halal stuff - there's no question in my mind which is more important.
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« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2015, 05:23:13 pm »
are the disgusted aware that the majority of aussie abbattoirs use the dhabihah (islamic law ritual slaughter) for animal killing. obviously
increases the market for their product. an indonesian muslim married into my wifes family back in the early 90's,he has worked as a
slaughterman for well over a decade.  aussies have been enjoying halal rump/t-bone/etc for years ,possibly unaware.    g

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Re: I'm dead set disgusted
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2015, 06:05:06 pm »
are the disgusted aware that the majority of aussie abbattoirs use the dhabihah (islamic law ritual slaughter) for animal killing. obviously
increases the market for their product. an indonesian muslim married into my wifes family back in the early 90's,he has worked as a
slaughterman for well over a decade.  aussies have been enjoying halal rump/t-bone/etc for years ,possibly unaware.    g

I'm glad you brought it up. Yep, I'm totally aware of it. I worked in the Ararat abbattoir for a year producing "Halal" lamb. What a friggin joke. To be "Halal" certified, the only only conditions are: 1, each beast must be blessed by a practicing, certified Muslim. 2, He must face toward mecca when he slashes the throat of the beast. 3, an arrow (that is oddly shaped like a rocket) must face toward mecca for the slaughterer to know his bearings. 4, there must be a 15 minute "prayer" break every hour for the slaughterer.

Well, I couldn't take it when I witnessed the way this guy treated the animals. There was no prayer involved. He stabbed the beast wherever he wanted. Then on one particular nightshift he  ordered (didn't ask) to to pick up the knife he dropped while I'm working my arse off to keep up with the breasting of the pelt on the chain. (Chain is slash the throat, head cut off, then the start of pelting....yep, it's fast). I told him to piss off and get it himself. 20 minutes later I was in the office doing the please explain. I was told that I need to look after him at any cost to my ego.
A few nights later, I "accidently" turned the warhead that was to face mecca back toward where the said beasts where coming from. Arsehole came at me with a knife shouting "I know it was you f#%king aussie pig". I did my best and walked away. That was my last shift.
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Re: I'm dead set disgusted
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2015, 06:38:07 pm »
Phuck me you won't believe this but i just took the PJ Carby off my 1985 CR500RF and found a Bloody Halal certification mark on it.

Does this Mean i can run Halal in the Pre 85 Class ?

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Re: I'm dead set disgusted
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2015, 06:48:46 pm »
Yes Fourstrokefever,
They need a break to pray every hour cause they are bludgers. Of cause- Its just fine for them to make derogatory comments about Aussies! Wake up Australia!
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Re: I'm dead set disgusted
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2015, 07:41:07 pm »
Hoony wins.
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Re: I'm dead set disgusted
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2015, 08:59:35 pm »
Its interesting that certain religions and beliefs do different things regarding blessing of food:
catholic pray before eating
budhist sometimes place food in front of the small family temple
Non religious sometimes spare a thought for others not so fortunate
All of these do not effect others, nor force their beliefs onto others and are done by the people eating it.

On the other hand Islam gets someone else to do the blessing (Lazy) and dont care whom ever else it effects or who it is forced on to... 

I dont really have a problem with any race or religion, i just dont think is should be pushed to others in any form!
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Re: I'm dead set disgusted
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2015, 09:05:08 pm »
Interesting comments FourStrokeForever. My understanding of Halal slaughter is that animals should be alive and conscious when slaughtered. In Australia, I thought it was required that an animal be stunned to unconsciousness before slaughter. To be Halal, a reversible stun should be applied, which means that in effect, the animal is sort of not unconscious when slaughtered. Some abattoirs have exemptions so that they can kill the animal first (or more exactly, cut its throat) and THEN apply the stun, which is more properly Halal.

The way you describe it, there's no stunning going on in your abattoir?

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Re: I'm dead set disgusted
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2015, 09:44:50 pm »
just unbelievable stuff isn't it. I was on a plane to rocky last year and an old cocky was telling me about the 15 farmers who had topped themselves last year when the banks wound them up after the labor govt stopped live exports. The saying is "Money is the root of all evil" but guess what religion has collected the most of over the centuries. they do lots of good stuff but power and money are the main game...


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« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2015, 10:03:53 pm »
And yet if we allow live exports, them we doom a lot of the animals to completely inhumane deaths.

We should be adding value by slaughtering them here, which has the benefit of ensuing they are slaughtered humanely.
But no. This is Australia. We do to think like that. We'd prefer to ship the raw materials away and let someone else get all the value-add.

15 suicides as a direct result sounds like bullsh to me. We had a royal commission over 4 deaths - I can't see 15 suicides being ignored by the other side of politics and the media.

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Re: I'm dead set disgusted
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2015, 10:37:17 pm »


15 suicides as a direct result sounds like bullsh to me. We had a royal commission over 4 deaths - I can't see 15 suicides being ignored by the other side of politics and the media.

 Yes it dose I think twice that would be closer ...

Due to the drouth ( No rain ) No stock or worth nothing   the value of farm  goes  down  . Mr Banker say fram not worth what is was a few years a go and foreclose on the loan . even if the poor farm has not missed 1 payment ...
Bank send in a caretaker to run the farm down . Poor farm see the fram go to poo and more stock die ....
Bank waits for drout to brake and sell  to some one with Big money ...

Black Dog comes to see Farmer  ...

 The media.  dont care  it  dose not sell more papers  .. No one wants to watch a story about a farmer ...

 Dont get started on farming ... But lets say ..

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Re: I'm dead set disgusted
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2015, 10:39:23 pm »
The home insulation had very little to do with examining the causes of those 4 ( unfortunate) deaths. After coroners and at least 2 other inquiries that was very well known. It was a political move by Abbott to try and sheet some crap home to the Rudd government.  The victims in that process were the public servants who did some pretty amazing hours/ days/ months to try and implement flawed policy and then got raked over the coals by an ignorant commissioner.
Rural suicide is a much deeper and significant issue.  There is no bullshit in the stats.  They are higher than what you could imagine.
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Re: I'm dead set disgusted
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2015, 10:56:03 pm »
I keep looking for the "like ikon" for some of these replies. Oh, wrong website.
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Re: I'm dead set disgusted
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2015, 08:34:02 am »
I was pretty moved by the old Cocky, he clearly felt their pain but he was quite clear that the loss of export income was the main factor.

im sure we could value add by slaughtering here but refer the abattoir post and we would have to Halal add to the process!!

its such a poor situation we have been walked into by feel gooders and "multiculturists" I can only laugh.