Suzuki ts185 clutch 83

[Xedent]

Hey guys, I have just picked up a 83 model ts185 and I'm having problems with the clutch.
It feels jerky / not smooth to pull so I disconnected the cable and lubed it then put it all back together.
But now it seems that the cable just stretches as every time I use it it loosens.
It is still jerky/not smooth to operate.
I have replaced the oil in the gearbox but didn't help.

Any one have ideas?

Thanks Clayton

[oldfart]

Possibly the fingers on the clutch basket are badly worn ( Notched )

[80-85 husky]

the fibre plates may be falling to bits?
check out a diagram of the clutch and the operating mechanism and make sure yours is all there.

there is a ts forum on the web so you should get plenty of help on that one. google oogle it

[Tex]

A new cable that is confirmed as the correct one for your bike is where I'd start before anything else.

Tex

[pokey]

worn fingers on the clutch basket for sure.You can remove the basket and file them smooth again to get a bit more life from it but it should be replaced as that allows the fibres to rotate a bit within the basket and they will end up snapping off.

get a new cable while your at it.


 for the gearbox use plain old 40 grade non friction modified mineral based oil.. Nothing else.



 see those grooves on the side of the basket fingers?
They shouldnt be thee and grab the fibre plates and stop them from separating smoothly

 check you fibre plates too as some fingers may be snapped off already

[Xedent]

Thanks guys, I'll pull it apart and have a look.

Cheers

[pokey]

If your clutch basket looks like that and this is on the bike you just bought and PMd me about Id say it has a teensy bit more than the genuine 850klms on it.

[Xedent]

Yeah, it still has original tyres?

[pokey]

Uhuh. farm bike.
lots and lots of miles in low gears will do that to a clutch basket. hopefully your gearbox isnt worn too badly as that and the clutch is what cops most of the stresses when your on and off the throttle chasing cows.

trials tyres dont wear much puttering around on grassy paddocks.

 fingers crossed for you.

[Xedent]

Yeah sounds like that Pokey, thanks
I have pulled cover off and the basket fingers don't seem worn? Although the outside of them/basket has wear?





Thanks for the help guys

[pokey]

Holy crap.  Something has come loose. It will be in there somewhere.. is a little wear on the fingers but have to dissasemble to inspect. Watch those springs n pins they are a bitch the first time u play with them and for the next twenty. A hook and long nose pluers and keep fingers clear and wear eye protection.

[oldfart]

definitely has ridges an easy fix with a file  ..... suspect nut is loose behind pressure plate or wrong thickness plates ??

[Xedent]

Pulled the clutch plates out today, there are little marks/ grooves defiantly not as bad as the picture pokey uploaded.

The basket seems to have play but middle doesn't? Don't think it did when plates and springs were I'm it.
I need to find a basket tool to hold it to undo the nut.

Also found the rear sub frame has taken a hit,  would it be hard to bring it back to centre?




Cheers

[pokey]

There are basket tools on fleabay  But ive never bought one.
 weld a handle onto a spare steel clutch plate.. voila

as for the frame. yeahh.. good luck with that. maybe find a heating torch before you pull it back into shape. Also check for cracks or grind and reweld them after its straight. they are just a mild steel frame so working on them wont be too hard.

[80-85 husky]

should have no trouble finding a good frame if that one is bent severely...