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Offline Natroy

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Rear sprocket guard.
« on: August 27, 2014, 02:36:33 pm »
I was at the Nepean charity day and saw some bikes with a rear sprocket guard.
Can someone tell me what's the go with the guard?
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Re: Rear sprocket guard.
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2014, 02:53:39 pm »
To stop the amputation of stray fingers.   ;)
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Re: Rear sprocket guard.
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2014, 06:11:50 pm »
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Re: Rear sprocket guard.
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2014, 06:24:42 pm »
GCR 16.15.4.6.  A chain guard made of suitable material must be fitted in a way to prevent trapping between the lower drive chain run and the final drive sprocket at the rear wheel.

2014 MOMS page 150.  On more modern bikes this is achieved by the chain guide.
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Re: Rear sprocket guard.
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2014, 07:27:29 pm »
I'm just fabricating one of these at the moment. It had a chain guide mount about half way along the swingarm and I'm using this as the mount. It runs back about 6" at the top and 8" at the bottom. Looks a bit chunky. If I cut holes  in it what do we think restrictions might be re size  of holes and how close I can come to where the chain re enters the sprocket?

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Re: Rear sprocket guard.
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2014, 08:03:07 pm »
A rule that is currently extremely loosely enforced it would seem.
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Re: Rear sprocket guard.
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2014, 08:39:34 pm »
 If you can't push a finger through the hole, I reckon you'll be somewhere around the mark... ;)
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Re: Rear sprocket guard.
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2014, 08:55:37 pm »
Hi GD66 was looking to do 2 or 3 cut outs about an inch in diameter rather than the old horrible drilled out look. Via the rule it says no access where the chain enters the sprocket so technically if I go about 40-50mm before this point it should be ok, but you might see the chain through the hole. Big fuss when the bike raced for 6 years without a guard and it never seemed to hunt down little children to hack their digits off.

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Re: Rear sprocket guard.
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2014, 09:00:05 pm »
Can someone let me know sizes/dimensions for this guard?

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Re: Rear sprocket guard.
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2014, 11:08:34 pm »
Natroy there is no specific size or shape it needs to satify the rules as the requirements of each bike is very different.

My YZ250L required a small piece of plastic sheet (old number plate) added to the rear of the rear chain guide to make sure it complied which was about 50mm x 40mm. My 77, 80 & 81 Montesa Cappras required a small triangle of aluminium 50mm x 50mm x 50mm added to the rear chain guide. My VR250 needed a much larger guard made to cover from the brake stay mount back to the sprocket (about 75mm by 125mm aluminium).


The rule states

16.15.4.6 A chain guard made of suitable material must be fitted in a way to prevent trapping between the lower drive chain run and the final drive sprocket at the rear wheel.

People seem to be very put out about this but is seems logical to me that the rear sprocket is just as likely to cause injury as the front sprocket. Yes we have raced for years with no problems but it is not really a big issue. It is like a lot of safety items it is only when your finger or someone elses is stuck in the chain that you think a guard would have been so much easier ::)
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Re: Rear sprocket guard.
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2014, 04:52:15 am »
Natroy there is no specific size or shape it needs to satify the rules as the requirements of each bike is very different.

My YZ250L required a small piece of plastic sheet (old number plate) added to the rear of the rear chain guide to make sure it complied which was about 50mm x 40mm. My 77, 80 & 81 Montesa Cappras required a small triangle of aluminium 50mm x 50mm x 50mm added to the rear chain guide. My VR250 needed a much larger guard made to cover from the brake stay mount back to the sprocket (about 75mm by 125mm aluminium).


The rule states

16.15.4.6 A chain guard made of suitable material must be fitted in a way to prevent trapping between the lower drive chain run and the final drive sprocket at the rear wheel.

People seem to be very put out about this but is seems logical to me that the rear sprocket is just as likely to cause injury as the front sprocket. Yes we have raced for years with no problems but it is not really a big issue. It is like a lot of safety items it is only when your finger or someone elses is stuck in the chain that you think a guard would have been so much easier ::)

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Re: Rear sprocket guard.
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2014, 06:14:06 am »
SOOOOOOOOO glad I live in NZ we have 6 fingers so loosing one is not a problem, like Bill said PC rubbish Im all for safety but where does common sense draw a line. Next you will have to find foam racetracks.
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Re: Rear sprocket guard.
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2014, 07:44:57 am »
its a risk reward thing guys, the risk of falling off is high. the probability of falling off and sticking your hand in the sprocket is low. the consequences of actually doing that is Huuuge. thus to lower the risk factor to "safe levels"... fit a simple guard. problem solved.

its all good until some one does a finger and sues the crap out of all and sundry for his own incompetence.... this has probably happened in the USA and MA is covering the bases. once the lawyers get involved, all bets, gloves and wanky statements are off...hard written statements are all that matters. ie GCR's

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Re: Rear sprocket guard.
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2014, 08:00:38 am »
It's such a simple fix, why all the fuss. I agree we managed without it for years and it seems an overkill, but in this litigious world it would seem a simple low cost preventive measure is not a bad thing. I've had a leg caught up in the rear spokes and thanks to good boots no real damage, but fingers in the chain/sprocket instant amputation.

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Re: Rear sprocket guard.
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2014, 08:25:50 am »
I've seen the damage that can be done so I don't have a problem with the it.