Simons upside down forks

[DJRacing]

DJ
It seems to be a problem for the NZ fraternity, now let me connect a few dots here........
Tanner
 

I don't see the problem with the fraternity of NZ (me) wanting to understand the MA rules, and you yourself have said that as long as the forks were originally made for drum brakes then they are fine.

The dots that you speak of, I'm guessing is that because I'm a NZer and the person that you seem to have a problem with is an X-pat NZer has nothing what so ever to do with what I am saying or debating. I am not someone's messenger.

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then you have answered your own question.

[William Doe]

Its funny how the side that disagrees with current rulings and interpertations are not on here in every other post telling the Kiwis to fork off and mind their own buisness or trying to shut it all down .

Also over all the years i have been on this forum the most vocal to shut it all down are the people who when it suits are quick to cry " whats said on this forum is all hot air and counts for nothing in the real world " and "the rulings and policies of MA will not be addressed on this forum "

Part one is confirmed by the majority in my poll  part two , if thats the case then its all just hypertheticol and affects nobody 

I have never said that the NZ system is perfect far from it , it lacks continuity and structure and adopting an alternative system makes a lot of sense .

However if adopting an alternative system means being controlled by a faceless revenue grabbing organisation and having the rules governed and applied by an inside boys club who will withhold information and bully anyone who dares question them then i will stick with plan A 

As Wally has said on many occasions " its all cyber hot air and tomorrows fish and chip wrappers " why is the (lets call them team B )so keen to shut anyone who challenges them up ? if its all above board and there was never any missunderstandings 

The poll shows only a very very small minority feel that talk on here should be censored while a fairly large majority believe its all hot air 

[William Doe]

Heard a bloke say the other day "just cos your paranoid , it dont mean their not out to get you 

[supersenior 50]

Bill, you stick with plan A, but you are welcome any time to ride my Evo bike here.

[Iain Cameron]

give it a rest gents.

[DJRacing]

"MODIFICATION" When I come to NZ, which Ive done several times (and greatly enjoyed it) I'll ride whatever I'm loaned and be thankfull for it. I rode a "Pre 75" bike at two separate meetings that had 9 inches of travel front and rear. I didnt think it necessary or polite to write to anyone, or post on this forum criticising another jurisdictions rules or interpretation of them.
If you come to Australia, and I hope you do, you'll be most welcome. I trust you'll afford us the same courtesy.
I repeat, neither in NZ nor hear, you are not being affected by our rules.

Col, you may not remember but after the Johnny Old meeting, yourself, Bill, Myself and a couple of other (I can't quite remember who now) sat down and had a few beers.  I have on many occasions offered my bikes out to fellow VMXers from across the ditch as well as my home, my van and anything else that may be needed. I have driven over 6 hours from my home to Auckland to pick up (someone I had never met before) and another 4 hours back to a VMX meeting so they could hopefully enjoy what we do over here. Once again I will also say a big thank you to the guys who have helped me when I have crossed the ditch to your country, Thanks guys.
This is getting off the subject though.

Col I'll post up a pm that I sent to Oldfart (Stu) to try to answer his question because it seems that your question is of a similar vain.


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Gidda Stu, how are you going ?
I will answer your question here, if you choose to post it up in the public forum that's your decision. I don't care one way or the other but I don't want to deviate from the topic in that thread even though it seems to be happening anyway.

The rules as you know in NZ can be made up on the day by the person running the meeting. We don't have a controlling body, just individuals who are hard working passionate VMX people.
I have put a proposal forward for a new series and regional champs that have new classes which are basically MA classes with 'most' of the rules from MA as I knew them to be before Feburary 2014.
I thought it would be better for us to become more inline with you guys over there since riders have been known to cross the ditch (you yourself included) which would make the transition much more easier. Our numbers have been dropping and we are trying different things to bring new and old into the VMX scene. Obviously we don't have no where near the same numbers as you guys do over there with means less numbers on the start grid and I believe that was the reason behind those classes you mentioned in the thread 'Simons upside down forks'.
Have a good one Stu,
Cheers DJ
If at first you dont succeed, give up and drink beer

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Its funny how the side that disagrees with current rulings and interpertations are not on here in every other post telling the Kiwis to fork off and mind their own buisness or trying to shut it all down .

Also over all the years i have been on this forum the most vocal to shut it all down are the people who when it suits are quick to cry " whats said on this forum is all hot air and counts for nothing in the real world " and "the rulings and policies of MA will not be addressed on this forum "

Part one is confirmed by the majority in my poll  part two , if thats the case then its all just hypertheticol and affects nobody 

I have never said that the NZ system is perfect far from it , it lacks continuity and structure and adopting the Australian way makes a lot of sense .

However if adopting the Australian way means being controlled by a faceless revenue grabbing organisation and having the rules governed and applied by an inside boys club who will withhold information and bully anyone who dares question them then i will stick with plan A 

As Wally has said on many occasions " its all cyber hot air and tomorrows fish and chip wrappers " why is the (lets call them team B )so keen to shut anyone who challenges them up ? if its all above board and there was never any missunderstandings 

The poll shows only a very very small minority feel that talk on here should be censored while a fairly large majority believe its all hot air 

Bill.
Your now making untrue and ignorant statements about Australia's Motorcycling controlling body and suggest you withdraw it. If you understood the process for a nanosecond you understand that your ignorant comments to someone who does are offensive and undeserved.
In saying what you have you are denigrating everyone in Australia with membership to a club - these, the clubs that control the sport - regardless of their view for which they are entitled as members.
Tanner

[DJRacing]

then you have answered your own question.

Dave, it is not me that can answer my own question, I believed I was answering my own questions back in Feburary 2014 but I was wrong. It is you that can answer my question and if you are serious with the above answer that I did in fact answer my own question and the Simons forks are all good for evolution racing then thank you for your quick reply.

[Rookie#1]

What are ya doing mate?? This child like behaviour that does nothing to benefit anyone at all, this is purely a self indulgent, provocative post so as to perpetuate the already too long drawn out debate here. Pull your head in and give it a rest, you're not the only one but the only one who has gone completely out of their way to ensure the tired old dog keeps chewing the now stale bone. I am not arguing your right to have your opinion and much less your right to air it. We've all had a gut full though, many people will stay away from this great forum for extended periods of time now, people who we could all benefit from their knowledge and experience and its people carrying on like utter dicks as you are now doing that can shoulder every inch of the blame. Go for a ride mate and cool down, come back when you've realised how trivial the crap your debating really is.

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[Scunge]

I for one have missed the odd evo or Pre90 debate on the forum. It's been very boring over the past year.

Keep playing the issue not the man though. 

My opinion is that Nz should just adopt the Aussie rules given how close we all live and the regular border crossing/riding.

[supersenior 50]

I'm with Bendan--and out

[William Doe]

Its funny how the side that disagrees with current rulings and interpertations are not on here in every other post telling the Kiwis to fork off and mind their own buisness or trying to shut it all down .

Also over all the years i have been on this forum the most vocal to shut it all down are the people who when it suits are quick to cry " whats said on this forum is all hot air and counts for nothing in the real world " and "the rulings and policies of MA will not be addressed on this forum "

Part one is confirmed by the majority in my poll  part two , if thats the case then its all just hypertheticol and affects nobody 

I have never said that the NZ system is perfect far from it , it lacks continuity and structure and adopting a more structured system makes a lot of sense .

However if adopting an alternative system means being controlled by a faceless revenue grabbing organisation and having the rules governed and applied by an inside boys club who will withhold information and bully anyone who dares question them then i will stick with plan A 

As Wally has said on many occasions " its all cyber hot air and tomorrows fish and chip wrappers " why is the (lets call them team B )so keen to shut anyone who challenges them up ? if its all above board and there was never any missunderstandings 

The poll shows only a very very small minority feel that talk on here should be censored while a fairly large majority believe its all hot air 

Bill.
Your now making untrue and ignorant statements about Australia's Motorcycling controlling body and suggest you withdraw it. If you understood the process for a nanosecond you understand that your ignorant comments to someone who does are offensive and undeserved.
In saying what you have you are denigrating everyone in Australia with membership to a club - these, the clubs that control the sport - regardless of their view for which they are entitled as members.
Tanner

Dave i have amended the statement but i will not withdraw it as it is my opinion . While i have always enjoyed my visits racing and social to Australia and found the Australian VMX community to be welcoming , helpfull and hospitible the downside of it has been having to deal with certain officials who have used their position to make life difficult for no other reason than a personality clash.

None of what i have raised is personal against anyone , its the system . I have done the vollenteer thing from flag marshall to commisioner and everything in between for MNZ and the ACU in the UK .

[William Doe]

Bill, you stick with plan A, but you are welcome any time to ride my Evo bike here.

Thanks Col much appreciated and i hope i can recipricate 

[suzuki59]

Can't see how that famous ex pat kiwi is pulling any strings here.

Because Everyone knows he's a homo !