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Do you believe that forum discussion has a negative impact on real world VMX participation ?  

Yes and shouldn't be allowed
8 (10.7%)
Yes but thats what democracy is all about
21 (28%)
No its just forum talk
41 (54.7%)
Other feel free to explain in comments
5 (6.7%)

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Offline Viper79

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Re: Forum Scaremongering
« Reply #60 on: July 15, 2014, 03:43:34 pm »
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Re: Forum Scaremongering
« Reply #61 on: July 15, 2014, 05:12:55 pm »
Im sorry i dont buy into the old this thread is why people leave the forum perspective .

If that is the case then that says more about those that leave than those who post .

I dont ever deliberatley watch TV news , if i read a news paper i flick past the sensationalised headlines and seek the items of news that are of interest to me . I dont not pick up a newspaper because some of its content i dont like .

I never ever pick up a bible as i have no interest in its content , but i read many other books that interest me .

If i am out socialising and i find myself in a group of people discussing somthing i dont want to hear i excuse myself or avoid that particular group while they discuss that topic . I dont avoid those people for ever and will engage in conversation with one or more of them when they are discussing a topic i want to hear or engage in .

I can drive past a road accident without having to rubberneck

I can hear a loud bang in the street and ignore it

I ignore car alarms

There are many many other topics on this forum and if theres not enough or the contents not upto your std then start one that is .

Bottom line if you dont like it dont open it  ::)

Seems simple to me  ??? i dont think i have ever been into the trials page on here as i have no interest in it .

It seems that to some its like a car crash  they dont like what they see but they have to keep going back for a look and then make their own petty judgements of the drivers posters
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Re: Forum Scaremongering
« Reply #62 on: July 15, 2014, 05:35:21 pm »
Exactly. I used to subscribe to a magazine. I didn't like the way the content was going. Did I make comment on it. No. I just didn't buy it anymore.
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« Reply #63 on: July 15, 2014, 06:10:55 pm »
Exactly. I used to subscribe to a magazine. I didn't like the way the content was going. Did I make comment on it. No. I just didn't buy it anymore.

Exactly Ted when people don't like something, they don't necessarily say so they just stop doing it.  In the mid to late eighties when SX started to take over and SX obstacles started being used in MX tracks the rider numbers dropped dramatically.  They didn't pick up again until track guidelines took must of the obstacles out.

Yes we need freedom of speech but sometimes a matter just gets flogged to death.

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« Reply #64 on: July 15, 2014, 06:27:20 pm »
Exactly. I used to subscribe to a magazine. I didn't like the way the content was going. Did I make comment on it. No. I just didn't buy it anymore.

Exactly Ted when people don't like something, they don't necessarily say so they just stop doing it.  In the mid to late eighties when SX started to take over and SX obstacles started being used in MX tracks the rider numbers dropped dramatically.  They didn't pick up again until track guidelines took must of the obstacles out.

Yes we need freedom of speech but sometimes a matter just gets flogged to death.

Kevin

Good point Kev  :)

But as far as a forum goes too many people cant stay away from somthing that apparantly pisses them off.

The same people find the energy to keep coming back to the afformentioned item that alledgedly pisses them off and even find the time to type up a reply sharing their distaste with the world at large  ::)

Surley these people could instead of reading somthing they dont like over and over and over and then typing up a negative response  could use their limited imagination to think of a topic that is going to grab the VMX worlds attention and start their own thread  :o

No thats to easy , much better to keep stabbing yourself in the eye and then blame others because it hurts  ;D
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Re: Forum Scaremongering
« Reply #65 on: July 15, 2014, 06:39:03 pm »
OH Bill

That's  a little extreme
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Re: Forum Scaremongering
« Reply #66 on: July 15, 2014, 06:49:22 pm »
Spot on bill, the blame game does not fix the issue at hand. At the end of the day I hope all can enjoy a beer/ water/ soft drink/wine  around a fire and in joy racing their mates at this great sport we are so lucky to have. 
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« Reply #67 on: July 15, 2014, 07:28:16 pm »
Thanks Foxy  :)

Shoey sorry mate i just get frustrated when people blame forum content for problems percieved or real .

As Foxy says off line in the real world 99% of the people on here would get on like a house on fire due to a shared love of old bikes .

How many times have so many of us been together and done just that :)

I stand by what i say (except the bit about limited imagination ) and would ask anyone who doesn't like whats written not to read it .

I personally dont like the monthly bills and traffic infringements etc that come in my mailbox , but i dont blame the postman or think about moving house to stop it  ;).
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Re: Forum Scaremongering
« Reply #68 on: July 15, 2014, 08:12:39 pm »
Moving house will slow it down for a while though ;D
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« Reply #69 on: July 15, 2014, 09:01:37 pm »
Totally agree with what you said Bill. I don't understand people's need to say what can and can't be said on a forum. Unless it gets nasty which I don't see that it really has, let it run it's course. If Nathan thinks he hasn't recieved an answer to some question he asks, let him ask a few more times.
The 4 threads which have been locked have had 8500 views in 8 days. Seems to me that it is of high interest to lots of members.
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Re: Forum Scaremongering
« Reply #70 on: July 15, 2014, 09:37:11 pm »
Anyone out there disillusioned with this monotonous bullshit?
Come across to Classic Dirttrack while you still have an ounce of enthusiasm left for your old bikes.
You won't be disappointed.

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Re: Forum Scaremongering
« Reply #71 on: July 15, 2014, 10:16:55 pm »
Don and I hope to come to the Nepean charity DT. Could use some respite

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« Reply #72 on: July 16, 2014, 05:49:53 am »
Thanks guys for your input  ::) i might come and watch the dirt track , have no interest in it whatsoever but i can sit in the stand telling everyone how MONOTONOUS it is to me , and then write a piece on here so other people with no interest can comment on it and tell the world how shit they think it is .

Of course a dirt track fan may ask me to stay away if all i can do is offer negative comments, but that would require an ounce of common courtesy  ::)
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Re: Forum Scaremongering
« Reply #73 on: July 16, 2014, 06:55:15 am »
You turn up at dirt track and bag it out Bill, and you'll be banned so fast! We'll have you personally escorted from the track by some burly sidecar pilots.

I don't think anyone is trying to control what people say on here, its more that they would rather the tone is kept to a suitable level. 4 (or was it 5) threads about Evo rules just clogs things up. I accept it was a valid issue, but a lot of folk would rather read about more interesting things. My biggest concern is more to do with the level of personal criticism that arises.

Personally I don't care because it IS just a forum, but I know some people get bent out of shape over what's said, and of course people's professional reputations can be damaged (and rightfully so, some might say). But I have to take some responsibility for what is said on here as there ARE legal conditions we should all be aware of.

Of course, I also don't really want the forum to be a vehicle for vendettas or harassment, like I said let's keep it civil and fun. What I DO want is for the forum to be a melting pot of ideas, opinions, info and feel good stuff.

And luckily, Bill, your poll shows us that at least most people do take what's said on here with a sense of perspective. That's a good thing.


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Re: Forum Scaremongering
« Reply #74 on: July 16, 2014, 07:08:56 am »
now the 70's short circut was anything but monotomous big grids great tracks massive days sliders and chookies in the mix jawa's japs weslakes big bore chookies on methanol take the first corner of a good mx meeting shoulder to shoulder exchanging rubber and paint and hold that thought for 4 laps, lack of oxygen from holding your breath far too long and very tight sphincter 's (ie throat , anus and sometimes the whole body including the eyes , all forms of sphincters)

 A sphincter is an anatomical structure, a circular muscle that normally maintains constriction of a natural body passage or orifice and which relaxes as required by normal physiological functioning. Sphincters are found in many animals; there are over 50 types in the human body, some microscopically small, in particular the millions of precapillary sphincters.[1]

if there is any one thing i miss about the 70's is full leathers,  a steel shoe,  great wide tracks and at the end of the day the presentations usually at a bowling club or the like , thinking how th ffaaaaaa.... k did i survive that whilst stuffing a cold beer into your face

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maybe a trip to gloucester for those boy'z really know how to throw a party ps dont mention dungog (must be some old footy rivalry)