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Offline Mick D

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Re: Mid 80s Factory Honda fourstroke
« Reply #75 on: July 01, 2014, 04:53:38 pm »
Quote from: odd1 on July 01, 2014, 04:41:03 pm
This is very interesting as not 4hrs ago I was standing in front of a Honda engines ATK of which apparently only 5 where built this one was an enduro version does look very trick

Didn't get snap happy with your phone by any chance?
I still think the details on this one are way different than that of the ATK's
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Re: Mid 80s Factory Honda fourstroke
« Reply #76 on: July 01, 2014, 05:05:46 pm »
Have pictures but don't know how to down load
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Re: Mid 80s Factory Honda fourstroke
« Reply #77 on: July 01, 2014, 06:02:35 pm »
Quote from: Nathan S on July 01, 2014, 04:14:36 pm
The Lechein bike appears to have an Xr80 fuel tank on it

Cept'n for that XR80's did not come out in white till 1991,this bike is 84/85 ;)
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Re: Mid 80s Factory Honda fourstroke
« Reply #78 on: July 01, 2014, 06:58:55 pm »
Its amusing that everything comes down to what people consider the bike is worth in $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ .
I know its on ebay and maybe im a bit cynical but it would be nice if for once if a bike could be discussed without mentioning what people believe its $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ value is.
As with anything from a glitter covered turd to an old master it is worth what a given person would pay for it on a given day .
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Re: Mid 80s Factory Honda fourstroke
« Reply #79 on: July 01, 2014, 07:13:56 pm »
I'm  wont be buying it, So I really don't give a dam about value. My curiosity is primarily what is it, and is the seller statment true or misguided.

I just remembered these pics from one of my old computers. It was listed some years ago on ebay as a 84/85 ATK kitter for the XR500 mill. Sure they are both non linkage single rear shock, get past that, there is no similarity whatsoever between the geometry or fabrication style or the rear frame area or swingarm and Shocker attachment position.


Is there any out there who can put up a picture of a known ATK that looks the same in the rear arrangement like this instead? Even the front of the frame oil tank and exposed back bone area are different.

A massive difference even for the vision impaired, the difference is black & white, in & out, up or down and dead or alive.

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Re: Mid 80s Factory Honda fourstroke
« Reply #80 on: July 01, 2014, 07:14:37 pm »
"this listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing" ,Or did some lucky new owner buy it out side of Ebay ;)
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Re: Mid 80s Factory Honda fourstroke
« Reply #81 on: July 01, 2014, 07:20:16 pm »
Quote from: vmx42 on July 01, 2014, 08:42:22 am
Quote from: Slakewell on July 01, 2014, 08:31:46 am
I really think that is a just an ATK kit bike? The finish to me is just not Honda HRC.

The frame was built by ATK specially for this bike. Based on the Rotax frames, but with the shock on the opposite side...

ATK did not make them for the Rotax engines first.
At first ATK frame kits were ONLY produced for Honda engines, the Rotax kits followed latter.
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Re: Mid 80s Factory Honda fourstroke
« Reply #82 on: July 01, 2014, 07:22:57 pm »
Quote from: smed on July 01, 2014, 07:14:37 pm
"this listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing" ,Or did some lucky new owner buy it out side of Ebay ;)

It was only a matter of time ::) I wonder if Ron Lechien bought it, now wouldn't that be ironic ;D
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Re: Mid 80s Factory Honda fourstroke
« Reply #83 on: July 01, 2014, 07:34:31 pm »
No doubt some one made him a offer he couldn't refuse 8)
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Re: Mid 80s Factory Honda fourstroke
« Reply #84 on: July 01, 2014, 07:38:52 pm »
Quote from: smed on July 01, 2014, 06:02:35 pm
Quote from: Nathan S on July 01, 2014, 04:14:36 pm
The Lechein bike appears to have an Xr80 fuel tank on it

Cept'n for that XR80's did not come out in white till 1991,this bike is 84/85 ;)

This bike has obviously had a substantial history of use.
Things get serviced repaired replaced and changed,,,then the ride and the fun goes on.
If this were an ATK some one would have found a pic from an ATK advertisement or test or such that matches this frame in question, that hasn't happened,, until it does?? She ain't no ATK, No photoshop either thanks ::)



Quote from: paul on July 01, 2014, 07:34:31 pm
No doubt some one made him a offer he couldn't refuse 8)
Sometimes thats the best way to get things get done.

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Re: Mid 80s Factory Honda fourstroke
« Reply #85 on: July 01, 2014, 07:55:39 pm »
from all the pics the roller is the real deal no doubt about that and the only non real part is the stocker motor but theres plenty of go fast bits out there to get the stocker singing as fast as the hrc motor so the now 9k asking price is realistic for what it is and the history it has and a cheap "works" bike that is normally out of most joe averages price range. i hope an aussie brought it ;)
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Re: Mid 80s Factory Honda fourstroke
« Reply #86 on: July 01, 2014, 08:10:20 pm »
Quote from: smed on July 01, 2014, 06:02:35 pm
Quote from: Nathan S on July 01, 2014, 04:14:36 pm
The Lechein bike appears to have an Xr80 fuel tank on it

Cept'n for that XR80's did not come out in white till 1991,this bike is 84/85 ;)
Yes, indeed.


The Americans always seemed to be able to get different coloured plastics (thinking about the TUF team bikes, etc.
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Re: Mid 80s Factory Honda fourstroke
« Reply #87 on: July 02, 2014, 09:27:06 am »
Not saying it isnt rare. It is. If Honda was making a works 4 stroke to race in 86 I don't see them running 1984 side plates. Or them using cast triple clamps for a works effort. Or even a plastic tank never mind a plastic tank from a different brand bike.It has some kind of ATK roots.Cleaned up it would be a bad ass bike. We all know It's not HRC
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Re: Mid 80s Factory Honda fourstroke
« Reply #88 on: July 02, 2014, 04:05:30 pm »
Honda USA built these bikes not HRC ,it had HRC parts fitted and factory Showa suspension.
Its a pain to upload pics to this site but I have pics if someone wants to post for me? I will post them on FB page.
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Re: Mid 80s Factory Honda fourstroke
« Reply #89 on: July 02, 2014, 05:33:19 pm »
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