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Re: KDX 175 1981
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2014, 06:30:58 am »
When you unscrew the top of the carby, is there a long spring inside that pushes on the top of the slide ??
It should be trapped between the slide and the top cap with the throttle cable running through the middle.

Lets try this approach first .....
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Re: KDX 175 1981
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2014, 07:44:55 am »
we may need to walk thru the basics here and see if we can sort this out. it shouldn't scream. a detailed how to fit the slide correctly may be an idea.

A guy on café husky recently described the embarrassing mo when he realised  the slide wasn't in right and it fired first kick.....he was still jumping and shaking two days later after having to pull the plug cap off :o ;D

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Re: KDX 175 1981
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2014, 09:11:01 am »

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Re: KDX 175 1981
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2014, 09:52:42 pm »
okay yes the spring is there, and yes when its warmed up it still reving to high
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Re: KDX 175 1981
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2014, 10:09:06 pm »
‘16021’ from the parts list is the idle screw adjustment, is it screwed all the way in tight? It shouldn’t be, it may even have the wrong size screw which may be too long!!

As I said earlier, take the airbox off and see where the slide is sitting then take a picture and post it here
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Re: KDX 175 1981
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2014, 10:20:19 pm »
Its getting too much air  from some source

Things to check.

is throttle cable kinked bent sticky too sharp an angle ?
 is slide seating all the way?
 is idle screw set correctly or too far in ?
Is carb correctly assembled and complete?

Is rubber boot cracked  correctly installed?
 are all intake flanges tight and leak free (wd40 test)

they are the basics  and perhaps more info is required.

 you mention a missing spring . which spring would that be?
 I'm leaning to the theory that if one part is missing then maybe another is. or the idle screw is turned in too far  or cable isn't allowing the slide to seat correctly.

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Re: KDX 175 1981
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2014, 08:30:50 am »
couple of simple things to try Cam,

part no 16021..screw it out 1turn.

part no 16014. screw it in till it stops (gently)then back out 1and a 1/2 turns

see if that helps

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Re: KDX 175 1981
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2014, 01:39:29 pm »
okay so i have adjusted it to that 80-85 husky and i can see a defference in it i can have it idleing but as soon as i give it abit it will revv right up and it doesnt turn off when i use the engine stop or the igneation key ether, so i have to stall it so it will turn off
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Re: KDX 175 1981
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2014, 04:20:13 pm »
you either have a massive air leak somewhere that is leaning the mix out so much it is "dieseling" and continue to run even with no spark. or your carb slide is hanging up in the throat.

for an air leak, my guess would be the main engine seals, either behind the flywheel or behind the primary dve gear under the clutch cover. if the bike is blowing heaps of smoke, its the primary dve side seal as it will also suck oil in.

pull the flywheel cover off and see if there is oily gunk in there just to check.

can you see into the carby throat to check the slide is hitting rock bottom every time?

the fact that you can idle it then it screams is a bit weird but reed valve gaskets can suck and blow as can the carb rubber boot to reed block. if it has a split in it. it can seal nicely till you hit the throttle and the vacuum opens up the crack letting a heap of air in.

it has to be an air leak. I just don't think you've found it yet.

But wait!! there's more .....

also check the fuel tap is letting enough fuel out...... I wonder if the jets are blocked enough to give that running out of fuel rev out....???

may pay to undo the big nut on the bottom of the carb bowl and see if fuel runs out everywhere (not on the lawn!). take it off carefully and look inside it to see if its clean or cruddy as its like a trap for water and dirt.

Turn the fuel tap on and make sure a good trickle of fuel is pouring out everywhere. that will eliminate stuck needle or floats.

have a look at the main jet (little brass thing sticking out the bottom of the bowl (92063) and see if its clean brass looking or covered in fungussy stuff.

if its cruddy looking and there is junk in the bottom of the big nut, you need to pull the carb off and get it cleaned. it could be blocking the fuel which will make it like an air leak.

have a look at all that!







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Re: KDX 175 1981
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2014, 05:04:11 pm »
Sticky slide?
Frayed throttle cable?
Throttle tube sticking on handlebars?
Kill switch disconnected?
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Re: KDX 175 1981
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2014, 08:20:39 pm »
okay so when i had it tuned how you said to 80-85 husky it also wasnt hitting the power banned ? now i had a look now at the carby its haveing the little tickle come out so nothing is blocked in it, ive made sure that the engine seals are fine and the brackets are tight
the kill swith is connected it was fine before the top in rebuild that i had done, im starting to think ill need a new carby because even before i had my rebuild done it was like this when it got close to blowing up, day one it was fine but had the over revv and then it just got worse or time now it does it all the time ?
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Re: KDX 175 1981
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2014, 09:08:49 pm »
How do you know it wasn’t hitting the ‘banned’? Were you riding it with a sticky throttle? You must be one of these youngsters looking for some extreme riding ;D

There is nothing in a carby that can wear out that can cause it to rev wildly.

The revving will be caused by either an air leak or the slide in the carby not returning to the bottom

You need to check to see what this slide is doing by watching it as you turn the throttle and release (while engine is stopped)

Waste of time to replace the carby to find out your problem is a frayed throttle cable.

You also need to remove the spark plug to check that there is no spark when you are holding the kill switch down
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Re: KDX 175 1981
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2014, 09:19:26 am »
yeah i am young but i love my old bikes, ill go and have a look at the carby today and see what the go is and ill let you know
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Re: KDX 175 1981
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2014, 09:13:35 pm »
enjoy the bike and fixing it as you will learn so much for future years while all your mates are buried in an x box. live the dream!

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Re: KDX 175 1981
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2014, 09:37:36 pm »
.... ive made sure that the engine seals are fine.....

Tells us how you made sure. What did you do?
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