CZ side piper Hubs

[FAT-TOY]

    I have finally started the rebuild of my 1968 CZ side piper 250cc.   I Have had the forks rechromed and about to rebuild them.  The next job is the wheels so I need to know what the original gold colour is for the Hubs.
  I hate it when they are just painted or powder coated gold and it looks nothing like the original colour.   I can't be the first to do this job so what did you blokes use.
  I would love to get a paint chip off someone, or borrow a good Hub so I can colour match it then paint a chip that can be used by any of us in the future as a colour reference
                                                                                                 Zane 

[tony27]

The original colour is from a dichromate dip just after casting, there is a guy in the states who has done it but to be honest it looked quite dull & plain.
I have a photo somewhere off the net of a painted hub that looked much better, from memory it used golds & a green mixture, will see if I can find it & post it up

[tony27]

Okay, here are the photos I was talking about. First photo is a treated hub, second is how hubs painted by Lee Holth (CZGuy) look



Lee Holth uses a couple of different golds & a light green to get the colour, is closest I've seen to the original finish left on my hubs in places

[FAT-TOY]

   Hi Tony
            The colour on second photo looks to be the ducks guts.  I know very little about the CZ suppliers at the moment, only maybe Les at VMX Unlimited. Is this paint something that is available to buy from Lee Holth or is it something that I will have to try to blend myself and hope to get it close to the colour pictured.

                                                                             Zane

[tony27]

I think that is the finish he provides on hubs he restores for people, not sure if he sells it.
Jimg1au may know as he has dealt with Lee quite a bit, I've only gotten a sleeveless cylinder for my 73 380 off him
The photos came from the oldscoolcz forum, quite a bit of info there for you with a section just on sidepipers

[albrid-3]

who is lee holth where does he come from, would like his contact details.

[shortshifter]

He's been building and riding CZs since the 70's.Got his own website Lee Holths CZ World which I think is still running.Usually has some bikes/parts for sale on the vintage us mx site including sidepipe rear hubs.I have an email adress for him at home which I can get to you later today.

[albrid-3]

Thank you, I will pass it on to zane, as he would like to contact him. cheers

[shortshifter]

Lee is [email protected]  cheers

[rough rider]

they look nice !
where's the best place to get alloy rims ?front and rear

[FAT-TOY]

   About to start on the wheels, has anyone blasted the CZ hubs?  Are there any problems with the magnesium that I should know about before I start.
                                                           Zane

[tony27]

I blasted mine with the set up we use at work for lightly roughing up aluminium blow moulds for milkbottles, used an etch primer as soon afterwards as possible

[FAT-TOY]

   Blasted the hubs today and did a couple of small cosmetic repairs using (Q Bond) have any of you blokes used it?  Looks to be a usefull product just a drop of what appears to be Super Glue then sprinkle the powder over it sets rock hard in seconds, then file it to shape.
                                                                    Zane

[tony27]

How did your hubs come out Zane?
Trying a new colour that is much closer to how they come out with the dichromate solution, is quite light compared to most golds
I probably should take a photo out of the bright light at some stage next to my current wheels to show just how different the colours are

[FAT-TOY]

  Well the rims are finally done. I'm happy with the final colour but wanted a matte finish with the clear but that didn't happen so I will live with the gloss.  I tried to match Lee Holth's colour and I think it's pretty close.  They are not polished yet, just laced and the photos taken so I reckon they will come up even better.
  I have a new photo host, so lets hope that I can work out the process and can attach the photos, if not someone might allow me to email them the photos and then put them on here.  Fingers crossed.
                        Zane
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  Not the same as photo bucket but seems to be working, for me anyway. Just click on the Hieroglyphics