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Wanted: Pics of Jeff Smiths 1964 BSA
« on: November 27, 2013, 07:34:41 pm »
  Looking for pic's of jeff smiths title winning 1964 BSA B40 (black bess) preferably of the right side/ close-up  of the bike in the first 9 rounds of championship :switzerland,austria,denmark,sweden,holland,france,italy,russia,czech,  any thing apreciated - Thankyou
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Re: Wanted: Pics of Jeff Smiths 1964 BSA
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2013, 11:58:48 pm »
no action pics from gps in any 64'Cycle world or 64'motorcyclist issues.    dec 64 motorcyclist has a full page ad congratulating jeff smith
on his world title,pic shows left of his number 25 bike.  have u tried google  '1964 bsa motocross' brings up lots of images.
also try 'mike hayward collection'-brit and world mx pics.     on ebay  OUT FRONT   256 pg book 'British mx champions 1960-1974
foreword by jeff smith (9 brit titles) $41 inc. post from UK.    on youtube plenty of old brit mx ' BBC Grandstand'             cheers g. 

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Re: Wanted: Pics of Jeff Smiths 1964 BSA
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2013, 06:22:23 am »
    Some great lead's there grant ! cheers mate

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Re: Wanted: Pics of Jeff Smiths 1964 BSA
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2013, 06:52:54 am »
I had some signed postcards jeff Smith had reproduced and gave me when in Unzud will see if i can find them in the shed and will PM you for your adrress if i can find them
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Re: Wanted: Pics of Jeff Smiths 1964 BSA
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2013, 11:14:03 am »
Enjoy  :)
JEFF SMITHUNIT BSA COMING IN TO WIN BEWDLEY 1965

AT THE FIRST OF THE 1964 BBC TV (BBC SERIES IN "MOTOCROSS ON AIR" BY IAN BERRY WILL HAS MORE PICS AND INFO ONLY 30 ODD $$..GRAB A COPY FOR XMAS)   :)  BSA JEFF SMITH AGREED TO HAVE A HEAVY TV CAMERA STRAPPED TO HM AND SAID TO WIEGH NOT LESS THAN 300 POUNDS.THE TOP FIN OF THE UNIT BARREL HAS BEEN CRUNCHED  :'( BUT WHETHER IT IS THE B 40 BASED 420 OR THE VICTOR TYPE 441 IS HARD TO SAY BUT SOME CYCLE PART DETAILS SUGGEST THE FORMER.JEFF INVARIABLY FAVOURED A PEAK TO HIS HELMET WHICH CARRIED,OF COURSE HIS DISTINCTIVE EMBLEM.THIS FINE STUDY IS BY GORDON FRANCIS.








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Re: Wanted: Pics of Jeff Smiths 1964 BSA
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2013, 11:23:15 am »
Wow love the jeff smith Go Pro camera set up.   Only 3ft tall on your back and 12 inches out from your chest with a 8 inch microfone
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Re: Wanted: Pics of Jeff Smiths 1964 BSA
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2013, 01:40:38 pm »
   Good stuff Alison & Baz all those bikes look like sidepoint ! were there any dates /captions ? need to get something thats dated with-in those first 9 rounds before Namur with a sidepoint motor, also looking for the dates of RND-1 thru RND -9 -cheers :)

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Re: Wanted: Pics of Jeff Smiths 1964 BSA
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2013, 04:47:11 pm »
   Very interesting snippet in the "british scramble" article stating the 441cc GP victor was released to the PUBLIC at the 64' earls court show (not 65') ? ???

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Re: Wanted: Pics of Jeff Smiths 1964 BSA
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2013, 05:29:51 pm »
here we go again ::)   .... as a 1965 model....remember that the dates of release have nothing to do with eligibility.. otherwise I would be riding a Mikkola 360 Husky in pre 75

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Re: Wanted: Pics of Jeff Smiths 1964 BSA
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2013, 05:42:16 pm »
  This threads not about B44's its about B40, and i think mikkola replica's are a well ahead of 74's

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Re: Wanted: Pics of Jeff Smiths 1964 BSA
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2013, 09:25:58 am »
I believe the early round barrel B44's were available to the public in 1964, but the argument for pre65 eligibility was lost a long time ago by the then chief scrutineer Stewart Young. He actually had a B44 in 1964 but he was voted down by others and that was the end of it.

Fantastic photo's Alison. Looks like a great book to have on the coffee table!

I'm pretty sure that the Aussie military B40 was a sidepoint motor. Might be worth investigating Aussie military vehicles or the like
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Re: Wanted: Pics of Jeff Smiths 1964 BSA
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2013, 11:16:37 am »
 Yeah thats right TBM ,the WDB40 were sidepoint its just a very grey area ATM - that needs to be sorted ,they are trying to push pre 65 and there's b40's laying around idle - and most agree they belong in the class :-\

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Re: Wanted: Pics of Jeff Smiths 1964 BSA
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2013, 12:50:12 pm »
I can't disagee Huskibul...but you were talking at the time about B44's... ;D there may also be a bit of more recent history (Connondale) than when Stuart Young was involved..

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Re: Wanted: Pics of Jeff Smiths 1964 BSA
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2013, 01:33:51 pm »
1964 militry B40 were sent to Australian army,being looked in to at the moment (also 65-67) but 64 is the interesting ship ment
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