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Re: Jawa 250?
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2013, 04:46:59 pm »
Hey I know nothing about these bikes but is it really a 1960 model?

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Re: Jawa 250?
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2013, 05:51:55 pm »
 Shouldn't that horible thing be a twin pipe!
 
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Re: Jawa 250?
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2013, 06:46:49 pm »
Define "Fugly"    Still in my eyes his Gold Flash outfit also for sale is at the other end of the eye candy scale.
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Re: Jawa 250?
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2013, 06:58:55 pm »
Legal for pre 60.....You saw how much fun those blokes were having on Jawas at Buladelah Slakey.....Sure the old California is slow but they pack a big fun factor. That's a lot of racing bang for your $1000 bucks.
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Re: Jawa 250?
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2013, 07:02:44 pm »
Can see a lot of their later 175cc trail bike there?
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Re: Jawa 250?
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2013, 08:11:51 pm »
its a 67 jawa 250 trials-(sold as a multi-purpose machine), 18hp@4750rpm,240lbs,4 speed,had a low front guard and headlight nacelle
with speedo in it.where that white sidecover is should be a large vinyl airbox cover. $595 new,some had CZ logos on the tank.     g.

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Re: Jawa 250?
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2013, 09:25:54 pm »
I like that bike. I wish it were herein the states. I could see myself riding vintage trials on it. Very cool machine IMHO..anyone over mind helping a fellow get to the USA ?

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Re: Jawa 250?
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2013, 10:19:59 pm »
It is  Jawa 125 or 175 . Jawa 250 was a twin pipe

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Re: Jawa 250?
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2013, 11:08:18 am »
I think you'll find its a Type 475 CZ. Round tube frame (Jawas had square tube) & CZ stamped on the engine covers. Sold as a Jawa-CZ trials model w 21" front wheel & hi pipe around 65-68, but Type 475 CZ roadie (Sport?) was sold early 60s - at least '62. There was a 175 model that looked identical (but diff Type #) so you'd want to make sure its a 250. Looks to me like a good price.

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Re: Jawa 250?
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2013, 12:38:25 pm »
1. would it be a starter in pre65, ?
2. are the 250 barrells (twin port)  bolted onto the same cases
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Re: Jawa 250?
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2013, 12:53:40 pm »
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.would it be a starter in pre65, ?
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are the 250 barrells (twin port)  bolted onto the same cases
Not sure but I would imagine the single port 475 barrel would be better than the twin port California..........but I may be wrong wrong.
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Re: Jawa 250?
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2013, 01:14:27 pm »
Well, my friend who has a few of these says its a 175 (type/model 470) w a few tweaks, eg later forks & triples. I don't know how he can tell the diff to the 250. You'd need to check the VIN to be sure

He's also told me in the past that the CZ & Jawa engines are different & very little is interchangeable, even tho they look the same. CZ250 engine of that type is 66x72mm. Jawa250 is 65x75mm (type 559 ??). CZ175 is 58x65mm.

CZ engines by then were single port; Jawa still twinport I believe. Not sure when CZ went single port on those round case engines - may have been late 50s. The engines didn't change much for yonks tho.
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Re: Jawa 250?
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2013, 01:48:49 pm »
The reason your friend says it's a 175 is the physical size of the cylinder & head, I haven't actually seen a CZ 250 in the flesh but the Jawa motor is quite a bit larger in the cases & topend than the 175s
The 125 & 175 CZs & Jawas were the same motor with the outer covers having the different symbols on only, can't quite recall if the model numbers were the same or not, seem to recall Jawa used 3xx while CZ was 450,453 for the roadbikes & 470,473 for the trail/farm bikes
He is correct on the forks being from a square case & cylinder bike, would need to be changed for pre75

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Re: Jawa 250?
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2013, 04:43:19 pm »

This is my old Jawa 250. Square frame tubes, twin pipe, no gutz, to me it rode and handled very well with front fork dampers that actually worked. Not like the Beeza next to it. good brakes worlds WORST electrics(pal). Surely that mob didn't invent the pal tv system? it actually is good!
 This one was the madel before the 'Californian"   16" wheels till I lengthened the swinging arm and had DKW rims fitted.
 I sold it after it turned nasty at 'Sorbent Hill'.
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