Hired guns at Aussie titles.

[Nathan S]

18, I think.

[bazza]

Ronnie Dinsdale in 88-91 on the Bultacos now that was fast and no RMb swingarm either

[pancho]

 
I have always considered that VMX concerns vintage and classic motorcycles.

Likewise it concerns vintage and veteren riders.
 
Not necessarily a vintage/classic motorcycle piloted by a vintage classic or even super senior.

Good to see an eligible machine ridden to the best of its capability.

Good to see a (rider age) specific rider showing his ability.

It's probably time that (riders)age groups was relevent to pre '85 bikes.
I dont think we need to weed out the 'young guns'  and make MORE rules.
cheers pancho

[KTM47]

18, I think.

Come on everyone only twelve more pages to go.

While we're at it we need a Pre 90 class for Juniors on 80/85cc machines. VMX is and should be a family sport.

[JAP 454]

I have always considered that VMX concerns vintage and classic motorcycles.

Likewise it concerns vintage and veteren riders.
 
Not necessarily a vintage/classic motorcycle piloted by a vintage classic or even super senior.

Good to see an eligible machine ridden to the best of its capability.

Good to see a (rider age) specific rider showing his ability.

It's probably time that (riders)age groups was relevent to pre '85 bikes.
I dont think we need to weed out the 'young guns'  and make MORE rules.
cheers pancho

Hear, Hear !!!

Foss

[Nathan S]

Maybe we need to change some names?
Instead of "Classic MX National Titles", it should be the "Classic MX Titles for People Who Are Old and/or Slow Enough, and/or Have Rebuilt Their Own Vintage Bike"?

Fastest rider wins. It's what MX is (and has always been) about.

We already have "sheltered workshops" in the form of capacity classes, and eras, and rider age classes within some of those eras. And VMX is its own sheltered workshop to begin with.

But that's not enough? And we need to create another layer of protection? Presumably so everyone can win a prize?

Maybe we need certificates of merit and champagne spraying for every rider after every lap they complete?

[pancho]

 I remember when my boys started BMX racing, the kids were getting trophies back to last place!
 
Were  these nut cases trying to kill the sport! A lot of the kids got their  trophy, and decided  'been there done that'.

 The trophy sellers made a mint!             For a while!
cheers.

[GMC]

Maybe we need certificates of merit and champagne spraying for every rider after every lap they complete?

We need something like that for the Harrow Vinduro

[Rossvickicampbell]

there you go - you don't ride a class if you weren't there!

[Canam370]

Maybe we need certificates of merit and champagne spraying for every rider after every lap they complete?

We need something like that for the Harrow Vinduro

That'd be good Geoff......but you'll still miss out!

[SlideRulz]

I'm with Punchy & Foss.
Surely this has to be the fastest growing topic in this forums history?

[oldfart]

They maybe young and super fit, but we are all riding the same era bike. It doesn't really phase me if I get beaten by a 20 YO riding in the same class as me ..... but if I get lapped in a 5 lap event I may change my mind  on the subject.
Let them ride. 

[09.0]

there you go - you don't ride a class if you weren't there!

Well that's me out of the classic nats.

I'm with Punchy & Foss.
Surely this has to be the fastest growing topic in this forums history?

Would that mean that there is indeed an issue to address?
I still agree with the idea of a young bloke say under thirty should attend two, three or four meetings to qualify. And that's the only qualification Noel suggested which would be good for the sport. The ones that stated they like to watch old bikes go fast get to see it a few more times during the year and uncle/ dad gets to be proud of his son a few more times. Huge rule change? Of course not but let's start talking about things that aren't even relevant....
I certainly won't be pushing for it as I don't really care. I still think Noel's point has merit.

[Tossa]

I don't think anyone has a problem with the young blokes or girls who race Classic regularly in WA brook lawson , Kris lindgren, Sarah, Rob Dillon and Ben Melvin are all regular members at our meetings and 3 competed at this yrs nats.

It's the guys they bring in who actually know nothing of the sport or bikes, but must admit are damn quick, that make me shake my head.  The guy Jones at crystal brook was super quick and won his events, but if i'm correct when asked about the bikes he rode knew absolutely nothing about them, was just a hired gun.  That I find disrepectful to the sport we're involved in. 

[oldfart]

Brad ..... to qualify would that be at club meetings being social rides  or would it be points rounds ??
If it's points rounds we have gone full circle.