Temora tyres and the 2013 classic champs

[steve7406]

Well Well ATT racers listen very carefully boys and girls as stated on the entry form this meeting will be for trials/speedway tyres only,this is part of a quote that was posted before the race meeting.
What a flucking waste of time posting that shit was, it seems all but 1 took the time to comply with this request.
ASH 666 if you and your club are going to set rules have the guts to stick by those rules some poor bugger who done the right thing came second to some one who DID NOT. Very flucking poor.

[52]

Compliance to the rules has generally been left up to the interested parties to lodge a complaint or protest, as far as I have seen in the Classic scene. There was another anomaly about the OEM wheel size, lots of bikes had the wrong sizes fitted to fronts in particular ie 21'' wheels on converted road bikes, gratefully the club chose to ignore all the OEM stuff in the supp regs and the riders in the true spirit of racing let it go. Very sorry to hear that someone did not do the trial/speedway thing but I'm sure if you had brought it to the attension of the crew at the impound area it would have been dealt with.

[steve7406]

The matter was raised with several officials but they seemed to turn a blind eye one even said if anyone protests they (with the wrong tyres) will lose but until I get a protest with the money I will do nothing this also is bullshit  but my beef is that the club has come out and set rules and it has cost some one a aussie title.

[52]

Yeah, my main man (engineer/crew chief/pit-dog) watched the issue evolve, I was sumwhat focused on other stuff because it did not directly effect me. Just met with him now for coffee and debrief, apparently the tyre was branded trail or trials, and as per the sup regs was judged by the steward as OK. The bloke who ran them done his homework and obviously worked, that's racing. The tyre ruling is not in the GCR's and was done by the Temora Club in good faith to even up the advantage of using specialist rubber. The Temora people probably know the specific tyres that work, maybe ban them, or sell the rights to run a control Dunyear. It was always going to be a hard one, I hate rules, they add to the confusion. Personally I feel for both parties, a real downer to a great meeting.

[steve7406]

We contacted the club about using those exact same tyres and was told NO YOU CANOT USE THEM just gives me the shits when their is one rule for one and another for another.

[52]

Yeah, I am getting the gist of it, understand your disappointment.

[steve7406]

All was not lost my rider still picked up 2 titles

[colmoody]

Wasn't their and dont know the full story on Steves Tyre woes but speaking as someone whom kinda followed the tyre debate/issue re this meeting on this site prior to this weekend I kinda  had the impression it was going to end up in tears for someone. (That would be you Steve)

As a matter of interest my Pre 75 bike came from the Factory with 21 inch front and 18 inch rear.

Am presuming 18 inch Trials Uni would have been fine on the rear at this meeting. Having said that if I had turned up at Temora with a choice of 21 inch fronts including Motard, Trials Universal and Knobby patterns, which of the above three would I have been able/eligable to use.

Not trying to cause anyone anymore grief or aggrevation on this issue just trying to get my head around it. (as are probably a few others on the sidelines)

Big congrats to all competitors that competed at Temora. You are winners, everyone of you.

[52]

As I read it Col the only one would be the Trail Universal, but they let knobbies through (although they were pretty bad, I'm sure). The OEM thing is another headache, XL500's with their 23'' rim, 20'' front on Goldies, etc (of course most people used 21''). Thankfully common sense prevailed, the club done a great job with the facility and if they put their hand up to do it again I'm sure everyone would do it all again.

[firko]

My problem with the OEM thing was that I've been using a 19" front wheel on my Maico for dirt track since the early seventies but I wouldn't have been able to use it at Temora. I was also unhappy at not being allowed to use a K180 on front of my 360 Yamaha framer even though I was using the recommended trials 2 ply on the rear.  In the end I reluctantly accepted the rule and was ready to do the tyre change thing when another situation came up preventing me from entering. 

[hagon_84]

So what breed of tyre is at the heart of ur disappointment Steve bit of a shame that it was overseen with all the tyre talk all yr personally I was goin to run soft compound knobby fronts Like on deco tracks but decided on the Mitas eto1 trials then didn't end up goin ah well I'll put them to use still 
AL.

[gdr]

After talking to people after the meeting ,it was brought up that the tyres had road on them , but as i did not have a good look i dont know .

[Sorelegs11]

I questioned the blokes a the impound area on the outcome of this and was told that there was a typo error that read trail instead of trials and the decision was based on that..
The tyres were scorpion trails. dual sport type.
Having run a couple of different combo's on my bikes I cannot see that there would of been any advantage as the fronts with the closest patterns were a nightmare going into the fastest corner of the track, they just did not offer any grip.
Its just my opinion but I don't think there was any advantage, but that said I totally agree that they should have pulled them up on it.

[gdr]

if they are the tyres ,they come up as street enduro tyres there for they should not have been allowed .

[matcho mick]

bloody tyres,spent 1.5hrs profiling a rear michy with me angle grinder  ,took it up to sorelegs for ossa rear fittment,fell on  ,hmmm 19",oops fuggg ,