2014 Post Classic Motocross Championship

[KTM47]

There where no houses next to Tivoli when it opened in about 1964 (hang on that might be 50 years next year). But that doesn't mean it isn't under threat. Like Echo Valley if the Council owned the land it would already be gone.

The other thing our sport needs to address is noise.  Really the Vintage bikes aren't to bad, it is the modern four strokes that are the problem.

Unfortunately everyone wants to put it in the too hard basket.

Also just to make you foreigners (south of Qld boarder) feel better. The Dirt Track/Speedway at Nudgee and the Vintage MX track are about 15/20 mins from the centre of Brisbane (if you use the tunnel) and ten from the airport.

[Slakewell]

I think the perfect place for a track in Sydney would be the Readymix quarry right on the river at Penrith. One hour west from the CBD. It is to be closed soon. Dust is not a problem as it would be 1/1000th dusty as it is now. Endless water on hand for irrigation. Perfect drainage with the country's best top soil and river pebble combination. 5 klms from a major city. No housing estates nearby. Holes, bowls and natural terrain already established. No need to import dirt from other areas. This quarry would be approx 7 klms long and 2 klms wide running right along the river.

Let me know what youse think. If there is enough interest I will go to council and get some info.

Cough cough maybe MCNSW could use the millions THEY should have in the land fund to buy this. Cant see it being expensive and would probably need little to zip spent on it.

[yungy]

We were very lucky that when echo valley was bought in the early days that one of the members was on the council  & were smart enough to register the place for Motorsport so we can't be kicked out for noise :-)

[TM BILL]

The other thing our sport needs to address is noise.  Really the Vintage bikes aren't to bad, it is the modern four strokes that are the problem.

Unfortunately everyone wants to put it in the too hard basket.

Dead right Kev  it really needs to be addressed as it will kill all aspects of the sport eventually . Those modern 4 bangers will be the death of our sport eventually  what was those ADs in old ADB  "No muffler leave it on the trailer Wanker ".

Looks like this Nats is shaping up to be a real boomer  i wont be racing but i will probably come for a look 

[Slakewell]

I love Echo Valley and the fact it can be a real old school racing track it has always been one of my all time fav tracks were real 500's can be used.

[Ted]

Fortunately where the quarry is noise won't be a problem. There is a fully operational gravel crusher going full tilt. I recall reading somewhere the land was to be gifted to the Penrith community by the quarry owners ( CSR, i think ) for recreation purposes. We don't need MA  to buy this land, we already own it, what we need is the local council to green light a section of it for a off road park. More dirt bikes would travel straight through Penrith, heading another 90 minutes west to access riding land ( mostly illegal on a MX bike ) than anywhere else in Australia. Like Slakewell said, it would take SFA to build this. Penrith has an International Regatta centre ( olympics were held here ) and a world class whitewater facility on this land. I think it would make sense for the community to capture these dirt riders. Nowra, Mt Kembla, Oakdale and Clarence all have off road tracks. You could fit all of those towns into Penrith, no problem.

[KTM47]

The other thing our sport needs to address is noise.  Really the Vintage bikes aren't to bad, it is the modern four strokes that are the problem.

Unfortunately everyone wants to put it in the too hard basket.

Dead right Kev  it really needs to be addressed as it will kill all aspects of the sport eventually . Those modern 4 bangers will be the death of our sport eventually  what was those ADs in old ADB  "No muffler leave it on the trailer Wanker ".

Looks like this Nats is shaping up to be a real boomer  i wont be racing but i will probably come for a look 

Right from the word go the four strokes have been louder. When the YZFs arrived they were 102 DBa standard when the two strokes were 98 DBa standard. The guy who lived (he died a few years ago) near Tivoli said to me several years ago "the noise has got worse lately" I didn't tell him it is, because of the four strokes.

Also on the Discovery channel a few months back it had a story on fog horns. They use a lower pitch sound because it carries further, just like those noisy smelly four strokes.

[KTM47]

Fortunately where the quarry is noise won't be a problem. There is a fully operational gravel crusher going full tilt. I recall reading somewhere the land was to be gifted to the Penrith community by the quarry owners ( CSR, i think ) for recreation purposes. We don't need MA  to buy this land, we already own it, what we need is the local council to green light a section of it for a off road park. More dirt bikes would travel straight through Penrith, heading another 90 minutes west to access riding land ( mostly illegal on a MX bike ) than anywhere else in Australia. Like Slakewell said, it would take SFA to build this. Penrith has an International Regatta centre ( olympics were held here ) and a world class whitewater facility on this land. I think it would make sense for the community to capture these dirt riders. Nowra, Mt Kembla, Oakdale and Clarence all have off road tracks. You could fit all of those towns into Penrith, no problem.

Go for it guys. Also try to get off-road cars or side by sides (UTV) involved. Councils like mutli purpose venues. Try to think of any other sports that could mutually operate together. QMP is funded by MQ, several SEQ councils and the State Government.

[Ted]

Approx how many people would use QMP per day?

What days is it open?

What are the operating hours?

How much a day to ride ?

How much for insurance to ride if not a holder of a competition license?

Do you need to be a member of a club to ride there?

Can you buy a yearly pass to ride whenever you want?

If so how much?

Can clubs hire it out to compete on for the day/ weekend?

If so how much for a day/ weekend?

Does a canteen/ shop operate on ride days?

How many Klms to Brisbane?

How many Klms to Gold Coast?

Just trying to get some costings together to ascertain viability. Cheers

[Ted]

Here's a fact: 1 in every 5 Australians lives in the Sydney Metropolitan Area. That's 20% of the population.

Thousands of footy, netball, cricket, swimming etc. facilities but not one off road park.

[mainline]

Here's a fact: 1 in every 5 Australians lives in the Sydney Metropolitan Area. That's 20% of the population.

Thousands of footy, netball, cricket, swimming etc. facilities but not one off road park.

get one going and they might put a bronze statue of you out near the front gate

[Big Scotty]

Would that be a bronze statue with an aluminium arm

[Ted]

Piss off you two....go and wash your beards ready for work tomorrow

[Paul552]

Would that be a bronze statue with an aluminium arm

PMSL

[Ted]

Paul, Seeing as you live closest to this track you will be mowing the lawns. Now who's PMSL..ha