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Offline Slakewell

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78/79 250 MC
« on: June 20, 2013, 12:22:11 pm »
Are these a good thing? Can you fit a 490 engine to them?
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Re: 78/79 250 MC
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2013, 12:45:31 pm »
I'm sure Brad090 has a 490 engine in a 79 frame....don't know if the 250 frame is the same as a 400/440 though.
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Re: 78/79 250 MC
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2013, 01:11:56 pm »
Yes the 490 motor goes straight in. 250,400,490 cases are basically the same

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Re: 78/79 250 MC
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2013, 01:16:36 pm »
Hmmm how much are 490 engines I wonder
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Re: 78/79 250 MC
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2013, 01:37:32 pm »
Hmmm how much are 490 engines I wonder
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Re: 78/79 250 MC
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2013, 01:56:29 pm »
ive got one as well

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Re: 78/79 250 MC
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2013, 10:29:13 pm »
The 490 into 78/79 Magnum frame "Frankenbike" is a great hot rod. Some Maico punters, Geoff Ballard and myself included reckon the Magnum is the best handling Maico ever. I helped build one for a mate a few years ago and we used IT 465 Yamaha 43mm forks & front wheel with 2ls brake and the longer 81 model swingarm and an '84 model rear wheel. The bike was sold after my friend had a mad period of disinterest before he could sort it properly. With a couple of weekends of suspension tweaking and jetting it would have been a truly great bike. They look good with an RM250/370 alloy tank painted up in Maico graphics too.

If I was twenty years younger and wanting to build a competitive Evo open classer, a Frankenbike would be my choice.
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Re: 78/79 250 MC
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2013, 09:09:58 am »
Is there much difference between 78/79?
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Re: 78/79 250 MC
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2013, 11:07:14 am »
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Is there much difference between 78/79?
Only minor trim differences Mick.
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Re: 78/79 250 MC
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2013, 11:10:06 am »
also  the 79 has a rear frame loop  .different foot pegs /and mounts

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Re: 78/79 250 MC
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2013, 11:17:28 am »
got a 81 longer swing arm if you want 1 to suit/ 100 bucks

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Re: 78/79 250 MC
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2013, 11:22:35 am »
got a 81 longer swing arm if you want 1 to suit/ 100 bucks
Do you have a spare 490 engine Paul?
Can you still buy new ones from the UK?
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Re: 78/79 250 MC
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2013, 11:40:43 am »
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also  the 79 has a rear frame loop  .different foot pegs /and mounts
I forgot about the loop thing....it's been a few years ;D. You'd be lucky to find a 490 motor for a sensible price Mick. If you were keen you could make one from a 440 by fitting a 490 sleeve (or complete cylinder) but is it worth the effort? Up to you.
 
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Re: 78/79 250 MC
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2013, 11:58:56 am »
got a 81 longer swing arm if you want 1 to suit/ 100 bucks
Do you have a spare 490 engine Paul?
Can you still buy new ones from the UK?
no sorry sold the last one I had that was in  in bits
maico only uk has engines for sale ,they are pretty pricey though
http://www.maicoonly.co.uk/maico-1981-2-490-reed-valve-race-engine.html
as firko says you can convert a 440 to a 490

resleeve barrel/fly cut cases/machine head  etc

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Re: 78/79 250 MC
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2013, 02:20:41 pm »
Those new engines are dam pricey 4k and then you need a ignition. Oh well it's getting beyond my current budget and I haven't finished my current project that will satisfy my big bore lust.
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