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Re: an aside to why vmx are declining in price- who,what,where
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2013, 10:01:17 pm »
No I dont have anything for sale at the moment Brett. Will be putting up my 84 cr500 soon though.

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« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2013, 10:05:08 pm »
43yrs and maybe 100 bikes and cars through the turnstiles over the years from 1976 to current
Z50A
Mx80
ts100
ts185er
DT250  katana 650  GPZ750
gsx400  /4
VF1000R
ts200R
HArley lowrider dyna
Fatboy
sportster 1200s
Dyna supaglide
WR200
WR250
CRM250        honda hornet 900
YZ250WR
KTM300exce
YZ250H
YZ125C
YZ125A    MX100   
YZ125K     RM125X  RM125S  TS250
YZ400D
YZ125C
CR250M
RM125A
RM250A
RM125A
kx400
cr250 83  KX250A4  YZ250E  CR125Rz  xr1200x YZ125E
Quite honestly the favourite is the YZ125E and the KTM300exce



Oh god don't get me started with all the bikes  :-(
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Re: an aside to why vmx are declining in price- who,what,where
« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2013, 10:14:17 pm »
Hi Kt, good post mate! I'm 52, First bike was a RM125A at 16 in 76, when I lived in Hong Kong of all places and returned to Aus early 78. I lived, breathed and slept Motocross for 7 years riding or racing nearly every weekend, until I quit for "a break" in 83 and got distracted with business, girls etc. 27 years later I stumbled onto VMX and turning up to a meeting at The Lakes to take a look, I smelled the burning 2 stroke oil, heard the sound of the 2 strokes in full flight up the hills, saw the lines of those beautiful late 70s and early 80s bikes and some of those early feelings came back to me. When I gave racing another try a couple of years back, I remembered why I began riding & racing in the first place. I drove home with the biggest smile on my face and now I am back into it I just love it. A member of Heaven NSW, a great club, well run with a friendly bunch, I feel lucky to be able to do this again.

I just run 1 1/4 bikes. A 79 CR250 RZ, my all time favorite bike, and an 84 CR250 RE, which only runs about a quarter of the time, but that is another story.
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Re: an aside to why vmx are declining in price- who,what,where
« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2013, 10:56:24 pm »
OK Johnny whats the favourite bike you own and have owned?
Nathan must have owned a few
Brad this is the one that i thought was yours..
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/130843090222?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

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I have a soft spot japanese mxers with aluminium tanks. Two stroke classic Dirt Track...

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« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2013, 11:07:58 pm »
OK Im 53 this year  , started in 72 with a Honda z50 copy (scramble Horse I think ) on to a bent framed dt125 forks where bent aswell it left two tracks , got a new dt125 in 75 only trail riding in the hills in Canberra . Got the bug again in 93 and bought a TY250a and did twin shock trials with the Manly club . got into collecting twin shock bikes . 4 TYs , Sherpa 350 76 , ossa 250 Mar , Montessa cota's . Then found a DT 250 74 and that started the slide into obsession . current bikes
DT1 x3, DT3 x2 DT2MX x1 , RT1 x4 , half made RT2MX . MX250 , 360 , SC500 , Yzd 250 & 400 , Yzc 250 & 400 & 125x ,Yz 250h , dt125 x2 , TY250a , Yz80h , IT400c , XR75 ko 73 , Deckson GP , AND about 5 tonns of spares . Iain  Call me a hoarder mmmm Yes it all mine you can fight over it when I croak it  ;D
Yamaha tragic ; dt1, rt1, dt2, rt2, dt2mx , rt2mx , mx250, mx360,sc500, 74dt125, yzx125, yzc250, yzc400, yzd250, yzd400, yzh250, yzh80 , dt100 , xr75 ko xr80 03 , it175 82 . Not a member of any club

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Re: an aside to why vmx are declining in price- who,what,where
« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2013, 11:13:45 pm »
OK Im 53 this year  , started in 72 with a Honda z50 copy (scramble Horse I think ) on to a bent framed dt125 forks where bent aswell it left two tracks , got a new dt125 in 75 only trail riding in the hills in Canberra . Got the bug again in 93 and bought a TY250a and did twin shock trials with the Manly club . got into collecting twin shock bikes . 4 TYs , Sherpa 350 76 , ossa 250 Mar , Montessa cota's . Then found a DT 250 74 and that started the slide into obsession . current bikes
DT1 x3, DT3 x2 DT2MX x1 , RT1 x4 , half made RT2MX . MX250 , 360 , SC500 , Yzd 250 & 400 , Yzc 250 & 400 & 125x ,Yz 250h , dt125 x2 , TY250a , Yz80h , IT400c , XR75 ko 73 , Deckson GP , AND about 5 tonns of spares . Iain  Call me a hoarder mmmm Yes it all mine you can fight over it when I croak it  ;D

Hang on a minute Ian .. I spot an XR75 in there ... give, or sell it cheaply, to me and rid yourself of the red scourge less it impacts your Yamahahahaha heard  ;D

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« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2013, 12:18:01 am »
Mark Firkin age 63. Here's a Readers Digest edition of my time in the sport......Started racing in 1969 on a Bully Sherpa S 125 and graduated to an RT1MX Yamaha in 1970. Bought my first Maico, an MC350 later that same year and still own the bike 'til this day. I raced motocross and dirt track on a succession of Maicos and a couple of Yamahas with an amazing lack of success until 1975 when I went to the US where I worked for Mike Goodwin's Stadium Motorsports, the original supercross promoter for a few months. During that time I raced my own Montesa VB360, and Goodwins Husky 360 auto (later to become mine) and IT400 in desert and GP events before leaving to backpack with my partner in Mexico, Guatamala, Nicaragua and Belize for 8 months. Upon my return to the US I ran a small bar in Long Beach, CA and played A level Rugby Union for the next 5 years until a broken relationship and homesickness brought me home to Oz in late 1980. From 1980 to 1986 I rode club enduros (and the odd big one) on Maico Magnum GS400, '82 Maico GS490, and Yamaha TT600 and a few others until rugby took over again for a few years. In 1986 while in California visiting friends I went to the original Dick Mann Vintage Rally at Sandhill Ranch near Livermore, California where I instantly fell in love with vintage motocross. Upon my return I got together with my club, Penrith and my friend Geoff Eldridge and mapped out what was to become the first vintage meeting in Australia, eventually held at Amaroo Park at Easter 1988. In 1988 GE asked me to write some vintage articles and a monthly column for ADB which I did until I chucked it in in 2008. I now write the occasional feature for VMX as well as continuing the column tradition that started with ADB in 1988.
I organised the first VMX Nats at Dargle in 1992 as well as helping with the '94 Mt Kembla Nats and the '97 Nepean Vintage Dirt Track Nats and helped Des O'Shea set up the Condoblin Greybeards meeting, held every June long weekend for the 10 years of the nineties that often had entries topping 200..all pre 75. I competed in VMX until 1999 on the following bikes (in rough cronological order)..Maico 250 squarie, Maico 350 squarie, '74 Maico 440, MX125 Yamaha, Champion Honda XL350, Yamaha DT1, Champion Yamaha SC500, Yamaha SC500, Maico, TM250 Suzuki, Maico AW400 and a few more that I've forgotten.
While I no longer race vintage motocross I still like having guest riders on my bikes and that tradition will return this year with Tony Clarke aboard my Cheney RT1 in pre 70 and RT2MX in Pre 75. I'll return to dirt track on my Cycle Factory RT2MX  flat tracker and motocross tackle with suitable tyres this year and hope to have my Trackmaster Benelli up and at 'em later this year.
The current colection comprises.............
*1970 Maico 350 square barrel.....my one owner bike
*1970 Maico 350 square barrel....the sister bike to above....currently dismantled.
*1973 Maico 250 radial ....currently dismantled.
*1964 Maico 360 Metisse ...next years project bike.
*1964 Maico KR250 short tracker.
*1973 Maico trials bike....I hope to ride it a bit more this year.
*1972/76 Suzuki TS250 powered TM Suzuki...VMX Mag project bike.....currently undergoing conversion to flat track
*1974 Boyd and Stellings framed TM400 Suzuki.....to be raced at some stage this year.
*1968 Yamaha DT1 Enduro...restored for Yamaha Australia to celebrate their 50th Anniversary. Currently undergoing conversion to DT1MX specs.
*1969 Yamaha 'DT1 from Hell'..my original pre 70 class DT1, slowly returning to the track, possibly next year.
*1969 Yamaha DT1 pre 70 racer....Purchased from Nathan Senior, now fitted with Swenco leading link front end and Arnaco shocks.
*1969 Cheney RT1 Yamaha....this years team leader race bike.
*1970 Hindall RT2MX flat tracker.
*1972 Hindall RT2MX motocrosser.....this years other motocross star.
*1970 Cycle Factory framed flat tracker fitted with either DT1MX or RT2MX engines, depending on the meet.
*1967 Hindall Ducati 250....garage queen
*1981 Yamaha IT250J...Vinduro toy.
*1982 Suzuki PE400Z ....garage queen
PROJECTS WAITING IN THE WINGS:
*TriBSA 500....BSA C15 frame, TRIUMPH 500 unit motor. This years #1 project.
*Trackmaster Benelli 650 flat tracker......I'll soon resume work on it for next years races.
*Trackmaster Yamaha 650.....waiting for the right motor to come along.
*1973 Rickman Metisse Moto Islo fun project.
*1971ish Antig Maico 250 square barrel.
*1974 Yamaha TY250....very trick bike that deserves full attention......next year.
In storage at the farm I have 4 x Suzuki TS90s, an XL350 and an RT1 Yamaha basket that's been run over by a bulldozer. I've got a shitload of Maico and Yamaha motors and parts, a C77 Honda and who knows what else. There are a Sherco trials bike, a couple of quads and my beloved mountain bikes, including the one with the 50cc motor. I currently don't have a modern.....there's no room ;D

 




























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« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2013, 12:20:54 am »
Thank god you have a good collection of spares Ian the bit you sent me was greatly needed and appreciated dont let the white goods on wheels honda turn you to the dark side Ian stay true.
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« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2013, 12:21:46 am »
You slowed up too as ya got a bit older Firko? Cheers Tim754
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« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2013, 10:32:25 am »
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Hi Kt, good post mate! I'm 52, First bike was a RM125A at 16 in 76, when I lived in Hong Kong of all places and returned to Aus early 78. I lived, breathed and slept Motocross for 7 years riding or racing nearly every weekend, until I quit for "a break" in 83 and got distracted with business, girls etc. 27 years later I stumbled onto VMX and turning up to a meeting at The Lakes to take a look, I smelled the burning 2 stroke oil, heard the sound of the 2 strokes in full flight up the hills, saw the lines of those beautiful late 70s and early 80s bikes and some of those early feelings came back to me. When I gave racing another try a couple of years back, I remembered why I began riding & racing in the first place. I drove home with the biggest smile on my face and now I am back into it I just love it. A member of Heaven NSW, a great club, well run with a friendly bunch, I feel lucky to be able to do this again. end quote.

Well bugger me! lol lol lol lol.  apart from the Hong Kong bit, this just about sums it up for me although have not got the race bug again (yet!!! never say never!) I had my first race on an Yz80a against a field of 250 seniors of all things, BUT ended IN 2ND PLACE! lol. started again on a Cr390 in 79 then another one in 80 and then a 430 in 81 & 82, then saw the light and a brand new $1200 RM465 from Frasers had me hooked and up front a bit more, broken leg put me out for a while and resulted in a series of Kx 250 til end of 87 then quits til 93 and a Kato took over, well 17 Katos took over til 2000!!! Then nothing but roadys til Ando got me hooked on VMX,well he did have two RM he wanted to off load! One semi-restoration under way, teh other is too good to touch!
I am glad i kicked this thread off,lots of like-minded "older" blokes,BUTnot many youngins, how are we going to fix that men? From reading all this i reckon its showing its an era thing,something related to each of "our" own eras,so we just might be shrinking, HOW ABOUT RIDE DAYS OF A SORT INSTEAD OF RACING? First rule would be you MUST bring a non-VMX mate to ride your bike as a try out and stay for the bar b q after!!! Other than that just ride wht you like when you like for the day but ONLY VMX era bikes on a track we hire for the day????????
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« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2013, 07:35:16 pm »


Hang on a minute Ian .. I spot an XR75 in there ... give, or sell it cheaply, to me and rid yourself of the red scourge less it impacts your Yamahahahaha heard  ;D

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Simo63 its a gray one with red stickers a gen 73 KO . The joke was I only bought it to teach my lady friend to ride as the YZ80h was to tall for her (yes she has ducks disease " steps off the curb and hits her bum on it " ) so I went looking for a mini bike by seat height not make found the little XR at a good price . When I got it home to find it was a KO I was very happy .
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« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2013, 09:53:07 pm »
This is cool seeing how everyone got their passion.
I'm 46
When 10yrs old a mate let me start his XR75, I was hooked.
Pestered the old man until he bought a mint condition TC100 to ride to work, I couldn't touch the ground or pick it up but rode it every chance I could.

DT100C my first bike, $150, rode it to death.
PE175T mates started getting RM & YZ80's so I worked doing anything I could to get money, roosted them all. Raced 2 enduro's.
XR350 Turned 17, removed the stickers to wheely the streets on my L's.
XR630 from Ballards.
CR250 88 model, started racing dirt track.
Several Modern KTM's before given a ride on a RM250B & CR480 at the Masters games in 98, hooked and had to get my own vintage bike.
KX500A1 found a basket case for $600 and been developing, refurbing and racing it ever since.
Can Am 250 TNT raced it for 10yrs then tried to retire, sold Can Am and KTM520.
RM250D was looking for another modern and stumbled across this, back into VMX.
Husky WR300, will sell soon to fund a pre 78.

Favourites have been the Can Am and a 97 KTM300.

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« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2013, 02:13:41 pm »
46 years in 2 weeks!

Love pre 85 bikes - don't race them but theres still time!

I fell in love with the 1982 RM Z's when in year 10, I remember the exact moment.......

I was at my best mates (still one of my best mates!) holiday house for the weekend and he had a brochure for the new range of RM's I picked up the brochure and was instantly smitten, If you could have a full on 'crush' with a machine then I had one!

Fasts forward 30 years and when I got the urged to buy and restore an old bike there could be only one.

I was discussing only last night with my wife the household budget and where we waste money (to her eternal credit she never mentioned dirt bikes!) and I told her every time a walk past her (The RM 465 that is) I linger just a moment, stare longingly into her eyes and my heart soars! My wife just laughed - I think she understands me too well!

Cheers
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« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2013, 02:30:13 pm »
Im 46 also ...
First bike I rode was a bombardier 50 at the age of 5. Couldn't touch the ground, but my old man put me on it and away i went. No problems until it came time to stop. Rode a borrowed Z50 on and off till I hit age 11 and got my very own, brand new XR 75. We had a paddock down the back, and I rode at least 2 hours a day and drove the neighbours mad. Raced at the minibike club for a year or 2 on the XR then graduated to a new RM80N. Raced that till I hit 16 when I left the minibike club and went to senior MX with a YZ125H. Also did a bit of grasstrack on a 125 Canam.

Raced C Grade MX for a year untill the old man couldnt afford to keep up with the cost.

Went on to own a 1979 XL250s on my 'Ls' , and then graduated to a 1980 XL500s. At some stage in there I had an XT250 aswell.
Had a few road bikes in between dirtbikes, and the last dirt bike I had for a while was an IT490.

Kids had chinese pitbikes for a while and I played around on them and a couple of chinese 250's.

Currently Im fixing up a 1982 XL500R so I can have a crack at some VMX.
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« Reply #44 on: February 11, 2013, 09:54:42 pm »
52 years old, I learnt to ride on my mates TC100 around his farm, got hooked, and at 15 saved $180 for my first bike a TC90 then came a TM125M which I raced short circuit in 77 and got creamed by every new model of that year, updated to a RM125A and gained a bit of ground  :( but really got upto speed when I got a RM250B  :) my first new bike. Started racing MX on an RM250C2 was a fair C grader :D.
Next a few enduros and Blue Lights etc on IT425,IT465,XR600 and sold the XR650 last year after one too many big getoffs up in the High Country.
Look at my bikes now and you can see a reoccuring theme  8).
Am I reliving my youth? You bet!
TC125M, TM125L, RM125S, RM250N sort of filled in the gaps, just need an RM250C.
Hoping to have the 250N sorted for a good ride at HBBB and CD10
Every Bike has been my pride and joy and all were great bikes.
Now an IT465 sounds good for Vinduros ;)
Cheers Nob

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