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Offline Slakewell

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Rear Shocks , whats hot?
« on: January 12, 2013, 01:25:50 pm »
Who has good new shocks for sale. Need some around 350mm.
Current bikes. KTM MC 250 77 Husky CR 360 77, Husky 82 420 Auto Bitsa XR 200 project. Dont need a pickle just need to ride my motorcickle

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Re: Rear Shocks , whats hot?
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2013, 01:47:10 pm »
There are a few different brands, Ohlins, Works Performance, Technoflex, YSS, Race Tech etc..
What model bike is it for? There is a lot of  difference in spring rates and damping between a pre 75 shock and an Evo shock even though the length could be the same. Make sure you go for a brand that builds them to the right specs for your bike.

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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2013, 02:37:25 pm »
 For the $$ and free international shipping! They seem to have a reputation though. There must be at least one manufacturer that produces a reasonable facsimile of the good ones.  Can anyone recommend a good seller for this type of product?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/13-5-340mm-A-PAIR-Air-Nitrogen-Shock-Absorber-Clevis-For-Honda-125cc-350-400-/181052154476?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a278ca26c

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Re: Rear Shocks , whats hot?
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2013, 02:45:03 pm »
For the $$ and free international shipping! They seem to have a reputation though. There must be at least one manufacturer that produces a reasonable facsimile of the good ones.  Can anyone recommend a good seller for this type of product?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/13-5-340mm-A-PAIR-Air-Nitrogen-Shock-Absorber-Clevis-For-Honda-125cc-350-400-/181052154476?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a278ca26c
That Chinese stuff is just rubbish, it says cheap shit all over it.

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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2013, 03:03:21 pm »
That's a waste of $100.. the rear suspension is the most important part of a motocross bike, and you only have 1 back to get you through your entire life!

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Re: Rear Shocks , whats hot?
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2013, 03:05:23 pm »
When looking for new shocks for my PE400 I was hit with the same question. I spoke with a few shock repairers but I mainly deal with Sean at SOS Suspension Penrith. To convert the original Suzuki shocks to rebuildable ones is just to expensive.
   So I found a pair of ITC Ohlins shocks out of the US off an 84 Husky. The shafts will need shortening and then service, change springs etc. Probably the best option and will make a real difference to the ride compared with the standard shocks.
  What kind of bike do you have?
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Re: Rear Shocks , whats hot?
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2013, 03:14:25 pm »
There are a few different brands, Ohlins, Works Performance, Technoflex, YSS, Race Tech etc..
What model bike is it for? There is a lot of  difference in spring rates and damping between a pre 75 shock and an Evo shock even though the length could be the same. Make sure you go for a brand that builds them to the right specs for your bike.

Currently on my 77 KTM Im running some Ohlins from a 78 model KTM these work ok on big bumps but dont offer the drive out of corners like the other shocks Ive used on this bike( Gazi's ) The Gazi's are better all round when there holding gas and oil but sadly they blow seals faster than a Penguin. 
I happy to spend up to 1k for a good pair as this bike is a title winner. Who sells custom built shocks in Aus? 
 
Current bikes. KTM MC 250 77 Husky CR 360 77, Husky 82 420 Auto Bitsa XR 200 project. Dont need a pickle just need to ride my motorcickle

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Re: Rear Shocks , whats hot?
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2013, 03:14:53 pm »
When looking for new shocks for my PE400 I was hit with the same question. I spoke with a few shock repairers but I mainly deal with Sean at SOS Suspension Penrith. To convert the original Suzuki shocks to rebuildable ones is just to expensive.
   So I found a pair of ITC Ohlins shocks out of the US off an 84 Husky. The shafts will need shortening and then service, change springs etc. Probably the best option and will make a real difference to the ride compared with the standard shocks.
  What kind of bike do you have?
I don't think you'd want to shorten the shaft on ITC's, they already have a short stroke as they are built to suit '83/'84 Husky's with a high leverage ratio and don't really suit any other bikes. If anything the body can be shortened to make the overall length shorter.
Noel (NSR) has done a set for his SWM.

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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2013, 03:23:09 pm »
I've have YSS / Promax on my Montesa VF250, VB360 & VG414 now for up to 4 seasons and still perfect. I have only had them serviced to refresh the oil no seals etc.

Walter and his NSW agent Les at VMX Unlimited take the time to make them work and the Montesa bikes are hard on shocks because of the extreme mounting position. Could not be happier with them.

I am sure any of the recognised brands are great shocks.

Don't want to start another 25 page thread on shocks I'm just posting my experience.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2013, 06:56:05 pm by Montynut »

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Re: Rear Shocks , whats hot?
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2013, 08:23:01 pm »
Thanks for the tip JohnnyO. My goal was to create a similar shock to the PE shocks in length and stroke with some extra travel. At present I think they are about 80mm longer than the standard PE ones. I have seen a PE with piggy Ohlins from an 82 model Husky which are the same as my 82 XC shocks. I tried them on the PE and they look ok but I wasn't able to find any at the time. The ITC shocks came up cheap so I grabbed them. I will be consulting Sean with the mods before any cutting and shutting is done, Cheers.
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Re: Rear Shocks , whats hot?
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2013, 08:39:38 pm »
ITC shocks are always cheap because they don't fit anything else..

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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2013, 10:12:18 pm »

Currently on my 77 KTM Im running some Ohlins from a 78 model KTM these work ok on big bumps but dont offer the drive out of corners like the other shocks Ive used on this bike( Gazi's ) The Gazi's are better all round when there holding gas and oil but sadly they blow seals faster than a Penguin. 
I happy to spend up to 1k for a good pair as this bike is a title winner. Who sells custom built shocks in Aus? 
 
Thats a matter of tuning,Ohlins (like many shocks) are infinitely tunable.You can change preload,spring rate, gas pressure and dampening.

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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2013, 10:33:03 pm »

T.You can change preload,spring rate, gas pressure and dampening.
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Re: Rear Shocks , whats hot?
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2013, 10:53:56 am »
It is actually very hard to buy suspension in Aus I have never found anyone close to being reliable or who will ask you want you and Not tell you what you need  
Price isn't relevant because there is no product to buy. I would be more than happy to spend 3k getting my two current race bikes sorted but whom can I spend it? 
Current bikes. KTM MC 250 77 Husky CR 360 77, Husky 82 420 Auto Bitsa XR 200 project. Dont need a pickle just need to ride my motorcickle

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« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2013, 11:07:36 am »
Slake, Works Performance are also a good choice for a pre 78 bike, I've got them on my RM250b and they work better than the Fox Airs on the 370
They will build you a new set of Works to suit bike and rider for around $500.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2013, 11:13:46 am by JohnnyO »