Pre 60 bikes. What are the choices?

[TM BILL]

Brad contact the Buzzard he has a Greeves for sale i think its a 59 

[firko]

If big dollars are no problem Brad, let me introduce you to the ESO option..........
                                                                                                   
Or the lovely Monark. Jonsey's bike is identical to this. Frank Stanboroughs building the engine as we speak, they're just waiting fore the guy in the Hunter Valley who builds con-rods for the V8 Supercars finishes the rod for it.
                                                                                                   
                                                      MONARK 500- Motocross - 1959
Sweden was a major presence in early motocross, noted both for its talented riders and groundbreaking machinery, and Sweden’s Monark is one of the rarest motocross machines from the 1950’s and 1960’s. The marque enjoyed great success in the International Six Days Trials and achieved its motocross zenith in 1959, when Sten Lundin rode an Albin-powered Monark to the FIM World 500cc Motocross Championship.

                                                                                                   
                                                                                                   

[EML]

Yes, but his kit would have to include a load .303 rifle and pudding basin tin hat would it not?

[firko]

Here's one mans interpretation of what I'm building. BSA C15 250 frame, Triumph T100 unit motor. Mine's using class legal Norton forks, BSA Goldie front hub and Harley rear hub. I also hope mine's a bit lot better looking than this with alloy side panels and a nicer shaped B44 alloy tank. I'll probably use a more period correct low front 'guard as well. I'm really looking forward to putting all of this shit together and a working motorcycle come out the other end of the sausage machine. Most Tribsas use the A10/Goldie style frame but I wanted something different and cheap. The trials chaps use the C15 frame but it's rarely used for motocross because it's basically shit. There is a lot of gussets and braces to weld in but I think it'll be a good thing once its all together. Finding decent forks is the big drama for pre 60. Norton Roadholders were used by Monark so that's good enough for me. Somebody (possibly Frank Hipkin) told me that certain Cerianis make the cutoff as well. The state of the art rear wheel has always been the BSA QD wheel but with a bit of help from Google I found that the Harley Sportster rear wheel was the same from 1957 to 1978 when they went to disc brakes (I think). The seventies models come with a cool Borrani mudcatcher rim so if you're going to get one you may as well get a late version with the slick rim as the hubs are all legal.  Dear old Frank Stanborough donated the BSA Goldstar front hub which we'll modify the way they did it back in the day by drilling the shit out of it. That's all of the "Major Components" covered so it's just a matter of making it all look like they're meant to be together.                                                                            
                                                                             
                                                                             
                                                                                  Harley Sportster back wheel
                                                       
                                                           BSA Goldstar front hub with the race holes

[VMX60]

Brad

What about a DKW RT250 rare but very nice German made bike to go with all your Maicos

1954/58 s/arm frame
Motor all roller bearing
S/arm mounted needle rollers
Well ahead of their time and some thing out of left field

Photo is half way built of my then p3 road race DKW which now will end up as a pre60 VMX as found a twin 350 DKW to roadrace  in P3

[09.0]

Brad

What about a DKW RT250 rare but very nice German made bike to go with all your Maicos

1954/58 s/arm frame
Motor all roller bearing
S/arm mounted needle rollers
Well ahead of their time and some thing out of left field

Photo is half way built of my then p3 road race DKW which now will end up as a pre60 VMX as found a twin 350 DKW to roadrace  in P3

Are you offering it up for sale? Or just as an example?

[firko]

or....Greeves NSU. Frank Stanborough has one that'd fit pre 60 with a minor suspension (and possibly a different rear subframe) changes
                                                                       
                                                                           This isn't Franks but it's very similar

[firko]

Lets not forget the weirdly beautiful Adler as shown in my friend Gus Preim's gorgeous bike.......
                                                                     
I was pleasantly surprised to see this bike cutting laps at CD5 and was amazed at how hard it went. These bikes were hot stuff in mid to late 50's motocross, especially in Germany and Holland. Your Dad would have memories of Adler twins running back in the old country Brad.

[VMX60]

Brad

Sorry not for sale just throwing out a idea as the DKW is one of the early 50s two stroke that can be competitive with the early 4 strokes

A DKW guy over your way might have one he fits Suzuki rods/pistons and can make good HP
 
I can PM his details

Cheers

[firko]

Hey Murray, you've tried that tank on your CZ Rickman and the DKW and it looks shit on both of them

[paul]

i might know were theres another maico bizzard frame and  eng and leading link forks

produuction started in 1954   i think

[paul]

this type off thing ,which some one bought for this very reason

[VMX60]

Firko

True I know but its Alloy      

[firko]

Take a good look at Karl Landrus' uuber cool '57 Maico Blizzard, replace the out of period forks, wheels and possibly the later swingarm with period correct bits and you've got a really cool pre 60 Maico. Left foot, one down, three up too. Paul's 'Starter Pack' Blizzard is a great starter. It'd fit in with the other pre 75 Maico tackle as well Brad....these engines are almost the same inside.
                                                                 

[paul]

the one above is sold but  i think theres another floating about