Pre 60 bikes. What are the choices?

[firko]

Royal Enfield, either British or Indian are a great choice, parts everywhere and you can possibly use a 5 year old bike (Enter Michael Bamford sometime soon )
                                                     
                                                                           
                                                                                  cancel the disc brakes of course.
                                                   

[09.0]

I'm liking the idea of the Honda thus far.

[vmxken]

Brad, see the photos and read about the Honda 305 that is included in the Joe Bolger article in Issue 52 of VMX.

Regards

Ken

[jimg1au]

brad
dont forget the bike needs to be pre60 so 1959 make
most of the good hondas are pre62 for road racing i dont think cb72 or cd77 are 1959 only the dreams with pressed steel frames
jim

[09.0]

Thanks Ken, I hadn't read that as yet.
Thanks also Jim. So maybe a Honda motor in a jawa or similar frame maybe.

[EML]

Preston Petty was an early Honda convert and won plenty on it.
There is a story on the ADV site about a Honda twin they raced in Baja-a modern version I mean. Quite a good story.
Any featherbed frame would be better than the pressed steel unit.
Looks like your pops gonna be busy Brad.

[firko]

 

brad
dont forget the bike needs to be pre60 so 1959 make
most of the good hondas are pre62 for road racing i dont think cb72 or cd77 are 1959 only the dreams with pressed steel frames
jim

Jims correct, as I said in my first post the pre 60 Honda Dream C77 305 OR C72 250 are the legal ones with the rotary gearboxes. The early engines can be converted to the higher spec CB quite easily.
Upon looking at the proper pre 60 Honda, the pressed steel frame would be rubbish for MX so you'd have to fit the engine into something else, maybe a Jawa Californian or Greeves frame.
                                                 
Just to show how cool these things look as motocrossers, here below is Dave Ekins'(Buds Bro) '65 CB77 305.
                                                 

[JohnnyO]

Firko that bike of Dave Ekins is cool, would that be an aftermarket frame of some sort?

[firko]

If the Honda 305 is good enough for the legendary Gekko Kamen it should be good for Brad San
                                 
Nikumu Na, Korosu Na, Yurushimasho” (Forgiveness without Hate or Death) This is the mantra of the masked vigilante known only as Gekko Kamen. Like a gale of wind, this mysterious “Agent of Justice” would appear out of nowhere to battle evil in all its many forms on his high powered Honda Dream. No one knows who the Gekko Kamen is but his exploits are legendary as is his kindness and spirit of justice.

[huskibul]

    Dunno if that headdress would get thru scrutineering 

[NSR]

Don't know where these fit in, but they look like a dream motors?








I may know where there is one of these.  

[NSR]

Another outfit for you to wear, Brad.  I think this would be my favourite.

[firko]

Firko that bike of Dave Ekins is cool, would that be an aftermarket frame of some sort?

It's basically an original 60's CL77 frame with the usual doo-dads hacked off and some minor improvements done. I agree, these things are as cool as an iceberg. My American ex partners follow up husband to me (long story) is an old sixties and seventies desert racer who never sold a bike, he just parked them in the cellar under his house and moved on to his next bike. One day while we were dragging out his old Rokon Automatic for me to ride we also uncovered his CL77 desert racer from the 60's. We also dragged it out and after a fuel and oil change and a new battery the bike started second or third kick and sounded so sweet with its open pipes. We took it out to the desert but unfortunately the rear wheel self destructed before I got a ride. That old bike is probably still sitting in that cellar .

http://rivetrestorations.com/Motorcycles/Documents/quicksilver.pdf

[firko]

The Greeves option is still a good one. Here's a good looking 59 Greeves Hawkestone and another rolling frame on UK eBay right now.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/130822723282?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Greeves-Hawkstone-1958-Frame-No-85xx-SAS-Rolling-Chassis-Rare-find-Pre-65-Trials-/330846813668?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item4d0801bde4

[EML]

Brad, I have a pic from the day somewhere of Donny Newell on a Honda Dream. You might want to ask him about them ( you might not too )