bultaco mk 1 metisse

[albrid-3]

bultaco mk 1 metisse are they eligible for pre65, can someone let me know please as a friend is interested in buy one.

[Rookie#1]

Hope ya get an answer soon, it ends in an hour!!! 

[paul]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VMX-BULTACO-M11-PURSANG-METISSE-/261131161476?pt=AU_Motorcycles&hash=item3ccca14f84

[firko]

Yes the M11 Bultaco Metisse is legal for pre 65. Why are you asking Dave? You know quite well that they're legal.
                                                          

[Curly3]

Dave's, ' Friend ", will really enjoy riding one of those.

[albrid-3]

That metisse got knocked back years ago, and I feel that the engine in this has pursang barrel, the engine number M90 is not a 4 speed model, that what I have been told.

[Rider]

I had a bid but was not prepared to pay what it went for ,which still would have been a good buy.$3650. M11,s don't come up very often. The M90 engine number threw me though.Dave Thanks for making a few enquirys about eligability for me. Regards Terry.

[Moto]

The engine is a four speed so its not a model 90. Its probably an M9 which without looking at my numbers book is probably an early Matador 250 engine. It has a centreport M11 barrel fitted to it.
Just my thoughts ?

[Rider]

That makes more sense, thanks moto.

[albrid-3]

Glad to help, that Lobito sound promising 100cc close ratio gearbox, with a well tuned big bore kit, 122cc , would make it very eligible with your long legs Terry, a close encounter to mix it with my sherpa s.

[cemotobull]

That would make it a mecurio 4 speed bottom end, which means modifications to the cases make the top end centre port barrel fit (different stud config). Looked more like rickman glass work than genuine Bultaco and didn't seem to fit right, tail section wrong or poorly mounted. Looked like a low compression radial head, not genuine métisse radial head, nothing a squish band wouldn't fix. Tank most likely rooted from methanol too, but hey, the rest is a métisse and I hope it gets raced!

[firko]

I think the seat/rear mudguard might be aftermarket but the tank looks right. The radial head comes with the bike-you can see a photo of it if you scan through the photos. Correct reproduction 'glass can be bought from this forum's Flowerpot Racing. I just bought a full set including tank for my genuine Rickman Petite Bultaco frame. You won't get better 'glass than this stuff, it's ethanol/methanol proof too. My list has the engine as a 200cc Campera, made from 1963-1965  with engine numbers ranging from 900.001 to 921.899 which would positively identify the bikes M-900826 numbered engine as a 4sp legal pre 65 set of cases at least. I seem to remember Anthony Suttor converting a Campera to 250cc for pre 65 back in the 90's so it must be possible.   

[albrid-3]

The radial head mk4 200 Matador

[firko]

The radial head mk4 200 Matador

How can you tell Dave? Look at the correct M11 photo I posted above....it's got an identical head.

[albrid-3]

Mark, I gave that head and barrel to Brian, it was off a Matador 200 m4, I bought a 200cc m4 complete engine from the states, as i was going to use in a sherpa T frame which I bought off a fellow in wagga, when I got the frame it was the wrong model and m4 - 4 speed engine was on its way to me, the engine was no use to me when it arrived and Brian bought it off me, the head on the m4 engine had broken fins. so I gave brian the head and barrel to suit.
So in saying all that, brian may also had a spare radial head too. Years ago when I was working with Ray Ryan I did import a genuine Metisse from States 1998, and it had a radial fin head, Bernard Andrivon ended up with that metisse, and later sold it to Brian , so brian may have keeped that head when he sold the bike to another fellow who restored it (I think), because at the time, the bultaco was not eligible for pre65.
There was a bum fight over the eligibility rules for Bultaco metisse.