hagon suzuki 250

[hagon_84]

nice lookin machine larry  a few things different to mine i noticed that it had the gear shift on right and brake on the left has that been modified that way make for a hell of alot easier gear changing whilst full noise if u notice on mine i run a rear cable and brake pedal on the right and a up sweep  pipe but probably change that to a under swept one when i can get someone to build a decent one for it

[jimg1au]

larry
that looks like a full sized frame for a speedway engine and amc box it has the oil in frame as well
jim

[hagon_84]

 the engine plates where a seperate thing u could buy and fit to any frame to change motors so i guess someone had this frame to start with when they got the plates to fit the frame i got has no oil in frame and front down tube looks a bit sharper bend on the red one or maybe its just the way im looking at it lol, was it a common thing to change shift side to ?

[hagon_84]

must be the way i was looking at it lol 

[Curly3]

A lot of the leading riders on DT back then rode the smaller classes as well and would change the gear shift over to RH side to keep them the same as their open class Jawa's & Jap's. The 2 riders that come immediately to mind are Chris Watson & Ray Dole.

[firko]

that looks like a full sized frame for a speedway engine and amc box it has the oil in frame as well

Looks like a stroker to me Jim. There's not a lot of height to fit a JAP/Jawa in there. Some of the stroker frames had oil in frame. My Cheney MXer does for the Autolube tank and I suspect some Hagons and Elstars did too. Not sure about Antigs

[LarryLinkert]

I reckon right foot shifting is probably a good thing on these machines. Most pommy bikes and early sportsters were right foot shift anyway so it would've felt normal to most blokes I guess. Most of my riding the last few (20 odd) years has been foot clutch and tank shift so the shifting is arse-about to me.

[pancho]

 I could not do a thing right 'till I changed my XT elstar to right hand change.
cheers

[Freakshow]

but lose the cross brace and pad.    Just my 2 bobs worth 

I was thinking the same but don't you have to have a bar pad of some sort now? I hate the flucking things.

no bar pads are required in the moms for any bike pre 78.  so in short fork it off

[firko]

no bar pads are required in the moms for any bike pre 78.  so in short fork it off

Are you sure of that Freaky? I thought the rule covered all classes but I hope you're right. I've got some period 'De Bruizer' bar pads but my minor problem is that I'm using Gary Jones handlebars and they're difficult to pad up neatly.

LATER ADDITION: I emailed Dave Tanner and he's verified that bar pads aren't needed for Classic but are needed for Post Classic. Sorry for the thread hijack......back to sliders
                                               
                                                                             

[Freakshow]

So what your saying is you didnt trust me ?   :'( :'(  now get back to your deadline and stop reading the forums.

[hagon_84]

well i might take it off if i could be bothered pulling all the gear off the bars again at a bit of a stand still till me wheels and fork damper rod return back from hard chroming but still got plenty of other bike bits n bobs to keep busy with setting up a modern 250 for dirt track for me local track 

[Slider29]

Nice bike Larry,..
The oil in frame was the buyers choice. If you had a 2 stroke engine that ran on pre-mix you didn't need an oil reservoir. The old  bikes had an oil tank located beside the rear guard or down near the swingarm. Regarding frames for 250cc or 500cc they are basically the same,... just different engine plates.
     regards  Mark