The Black Rat

[Hoony]

can someone explain why the pre 68' class for sidecars? what was the big techo change in post 68? was it simply wasp frames came into play ?

[shelpi]

can someone explain why the pre 68' class for sidecars? what was the big techo change in post 68? was it simply wasp frames came into play ?

Pre68 is of a road going frame or the era and me thinks by makeing it pre68 not pre70 they can keep alot more Japanesy stuff out  hhmmm wonder about the flow on rule all I know it took us a lot of searching to get the right numbers on the right motor

[Tim754]

 Pre68 Now There is a class that the rules are so Simple basically the road going conversion, no disk brakes with an engine and suspension of the era. Flow on rules do apply Shelpi, Meaning you could use any W1sa 650 single or dual carby *engine up till they were delisted in 1972.
 Yes it does wipe out the mighty late sixties  Japs CB750 ,XS1. T500. H1 etc But Think about it, brings so many lost bike souls out for dare I say it fun and display. Wanna race ? enter your Pre68 in Pre75  (it is allowed as pre68 entries don't fill many grids ..)still competitive, still a bone breaking rough battle ,still fun. Cheers Tim754

* Both variants where sold together from the start of run, The single carby heads are so rare!

[BAHNZY]

Beautiful job on the bike, just a thought how well will the front shocks work mounted upside down.

Do you honestly think they would work any better with the reservoirs in the normal position or upside down? 

[Andrew L]

Good point

[shelpi]

Beautiful job on the bike, just a thought how well will the front shocks work mounted upside down.

Do you honestly think they would work any better with the reservoirs in the normal position or upside down? 

do they make hydraulic shocks any more and if so who is useing them and why :'( myass hertz 4 inchs is a big enough price to pay with all that extra metal dont worry Black Rat your safe with me 

[Tim754]

Do they make hydraulic shocks any more? good question Shelpi. As far as I know the damping effect on all shocks is either fluid (aka Hydraulics) or gas or a mix of both.

[shelpi]

Cheers Tim,  Hope we will get to show and have fun but :'( as we speak there is only weeks left and the little pre68 aint finished yet still havn't fired up the new donk aaaaaaah the pressure

better see if there is oil in the boingy sticks

[Bumper]

ok the rat,s almost finished so before this thread heads off to the archives
would like to thank BAHNZY my best mate who,s a wiz on a lathe
DARREN who brought the rat to life with color
MARIO the only man who know,s how to remaster a seat (top line upholstery)
TIM754 for info along the way on how the rat all came about
and all others that have helped along the way
BIG THANKS BUMPER ;

[shelpi]

onya Bumper hope to seeya out there banging bars

[Hoony]

yes well done Bumper, good work and very fast as well considering the effort required to get it to this level.

[Tim754]

Fair go Hoony, you know how many flesh, organ and brain cells we irreparably destroyed in effort, building the earlier versions...

[Hoony]

its a wonder you can remember anything Tim 

[EML]

Anyone throwing a Honda4 around a paddock needs to forget as much as he possibly can

[Tim754]

Umm where am I ?  whatsmyname754..