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Making your own tools
« on: August 09, 2012, 11:35:43 pm »
   Over the years I have had to make a few tools.  Some to do special jobs and others because I couldn’t find something suitable but most of the time they were just too expensive to buy and there is some satisfaction in doing it yourself.


 Some of the tools used when making a pipe, these are mainly for use inside the pipe for  rounding and tidying up lobsterbacked bends (just makes them look better) also handy for some dents and the reground hammer works great. A mate of mine who has been making performance pipes for 40 odd years has a christmas tree setup with different tapers and balls branching off it, a very handy tool but to much work to make for a part timer.  I will get a photo of it and put it up later.



 Shock spring compressing tool, simple just put in the vice and its operated with one hand so I can remove the spring  retainers easily with the other.









  Then the whole thing folds up and it hangs on a nail until its needed again.

   So thats a couple of mine,   you blokes are probably like me and love to see blokes sheds and tools also any ideas you have to make jobs  easier, so show us some of yours.
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Re: Making your own tools
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2012, 05:14:43 am »
Mate that is very impressive.
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Re: Making your own tools
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2012, 07:29:07 am »
Your spring compresser is sooooo simple Fat-Toy, often the best things are, off to the shed to make one, I used to be a two screwdriver user !!!
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2012, 07:53:42 am »
Great Thread, hope others post up their stuff, i have a few i made up too but they are the standard run of the mill type clutch hub holders, fork seal drivers etc.
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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2012, 01:43:09 pm »
  A mate of mine has just called around with some Timing Degree Wheels he has made.  He made one for me years ago and i'm still using it but these have brands on them like bultaco, BSA etc or he will print your name or what ever you like on them.  I will bring a few down to CD9 if anyones interested.  He is asking $10 each for them, that sounds like a good price to me.

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Re: Making your own tools
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2012, 10:38:21 pm »
Thanks for this thread FAT-TOY I,m having a go at making the shock spring compressing tool. Jimson
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Re: Making your own tools
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2012, 01:34:24 pm »
 When I lived in Villawood in my apprenticeship days I used to ride my pushie down near Leightonfield railway station to the 'aero dump' where they scrap-metalled WW2 'planes.I found a stack of compass discs about 10 inches dia., being marked out in 360 degrees increments I grabbed a heap of them for timing discs. I gave them all away except one. You guessed it, I've lost it!
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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2012, 02:44:57 pm »
In the first year of my boilermaking apprenticeship we were required to make our own T-squares, dividers, and other marking off tools and we even made our own ball peen hammer and cold chisels. I've still got the hammer and a couple of chisels I made in the forge shop and despite the fact that I made it, my Firko made hammer is the best balanced of the 10 or so that I own (the hammer is a boilermakers best friend). I've made a shock spring remover almost identical to Fat-Toys, a doo-dad for unscrewing the top of Works Performance shocks that works way better than the factory tool, a few different sized fork seal fitting tools, some dollys for removing dents on pipes and tanks and other gizmos that don't come to mind right now.

 It's a real Eureka! moment when a tool you made with your own hands works the way it was intended. ;D
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Re: Making your own tools
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2012, 03:25:06 pm »
This is the tool that I made to remove the shock spring, it works a treat.
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2012, 03:45:29 pm »
The end hook goes into the top shock eye, and the square loose section  goes between the shock coils and compress down and remove the collars. very easy and simple mark.

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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2012, 03:53:59 pm »
Now you say it I can see it clearly Dave. It's a simpler version of mine and Fat-Toys gadgets.
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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2012, 05:28:59 pm »
Yes, Very Very Handy Tool

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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2012, 12:41:31 pm »
In the first year of my boilermaking apprenticeship we were required to make our own T-squares, dividers, and other marking off tools and we even made our own ball peen hammer and cold chisels. I've still got the hammer and a couple of chisels I made in the forge shop and despite the fact that I made it, my Firko made hammer is the best balanced of the 10 or so that I own (the hammer is a boilermakers best friend). I've made a shock spring remover almost identical to Fat-Toys, a doo-dad for unscrewing the top of Works Performance shocks that works way better than the factory tool, a few different sized fork seal fitting tools, some dollys for removing dents on pipes and tanks and other gizmos that don't come to mind right now.

 It's a real Eureka! moment when a tool you made with your own hands works the way it was intended. ;D

I too did my apprenticeship with one of those companies that made apprentices make all kinds of tools as skill exercises. As a 1st year apprentice Electrical Fitter Mechanic in 1975 I spent my 1st year of “work” in a training workshop run by the company.  The company put such an emphasis on the Fitter part of the trade title that the first nine month of that 1st year was spent learning to be a fitter/machinist and doing the same exercises as the Fitter / Machinist apprentices.

Many of the skill exercises were the normal chisel, hacksaw, file type job like turning a piece of round bar into a piece of square bar, but we did make a lot of tools. Some of the better exercises were making your own fabricated steel bench vice and making a boat winch, where you made all the components and had to do all your own welding, and remember we were electrical apprentices.

I still have most of the tools that I made and a few of them are still in regular use. Here is the picture of the most hated tool we had to make;



Yes, a tool box sized surface plate! This was one of those things that everyone asked, WHY!

I remember it took me FIVE days to file it square and then scrap the stupid thing PERFECTLY flat. It still lives in my tool cabinet, and surprisingly, although as an apprentice I never thought that I would use it, I do use it to check that the mounting face of flange mount carbies are actually flat and not distorted.

Although a lot us of asked why, and didn’t really enjoy spending days on end filing and scraping etc, I now know that those basic skills I learnt back then have served me very well for the last 37 years and allowed me to make numerous other special tools that I have needed while working on my various bikes.

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« Last Edit: October 29, 2012, 12:44:56 pm by Colj500 »
Why do things the easy way, when with a bit of effort you can really make it difficult for yourself!!

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Re: Making your own tools
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2012, 01:05:11 pm »
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I too did my apprenticeship with one of those companies that made apprentices make all kinds of tools as skill exercises. As a 1st year apprentice Electrical Fitter Mechanic in 1975 I spent my 1st year of “work” in a training workshop run by the company
I did my apprenticeship with the NSW Railways and like Col we made all sorts of tools (as I wrote earlier) and learned skills that weren't necessarily part of out 'job description' such as using a lathe, mill and blacksmithing/forging. As Walter says, today's apprentices don't learn the variety of skills that we did. I have a young friend just out of his boilermaking (metal fabrication, as it's called today) apprenticeship and I was shocked to learn that he was never taught to use a lathe or forging. I did the first three years of my apprenticeship actually working on boilers, riverting, knocking down copper stays and all sorts of other now almost extinct skills. Thankfully the skills they taught us early on that we thought we'd never use were what carried me through my 40+ years in the metalwork business.
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Re: Making your own tools
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2012, 08:42:54 am »
i too did some but not all of the above.

very few Companies have in house apprentices these days and the focus is more on getting value for money from them instead of investing in their future skill (be it with that company or elsewhere). i have an Electrical apprentice with me 2 days a week who is apprenticed to a large labour hire mob (i'm a self employed contractor) we are working in manufacturing industry as maintenance electricians. he is a good bloke and very keen to learn and applies himself very well.

i am trying very hard to give him old school training like i had as it served me well. both the Manufacturer and the labour hire mob really don't put any effort into his advancement other than what they "Have to" its all about money and value these days. very few apprentices in industry these days compared to 15 + years ago, all the big workshop are nearly gone and its a casual workforce.
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