Early Antig's

[huskibul]

    Just wondering if anybody knows what colour the early Antig  sandracer/grasstracker frames come in originaly , maybe hagon blue / black /silver or other ? not many colour pics on the web to go on -cheers 

[jimg1au]

my  pre 75 antig frame was chrome but hagon sandracer and grasstrack frames were blue
there are 3 different frames here by 2 different makers
tig perry antig
alf hagon  hagon

[huskibul]

  Hey jim !iam fairly familiar with the hagons ,not so with antigs did they also have different frames for sand and grass or just what they currently call the stroker ? also how far back do they go - pre 70/pre 65 ? cheers

[jimg1au]

most of the pre 70 antigs i have seen has b40s or b44s in them i am going to see dave perry in june would you want me to ask about the history from his dad
jim

[Freakshow]

sprung rears where the sand racers version, i think the others used the conversion kit for the rear to change the speedway diamond rear over to sprung.  Also the strokers were only made to fit the 2 stroke motors in. ( hence the name) im reading the 50 page catolouge as we speak, as im trying to chase up a long tracker or the rear end conversion kit and there picture ar ein the book here so im posting it on a few webbies when i get a chance

[huskibul]

   Yeah no worries the more info the better! iam thinking the frame is a early antig sandracer ,and the current antig catalogue are also listing a new "classic sandracer" the grass tracker as another model - same as hagon had in the day  ! surely they had bare or painted frames as well?

[huskibul]

   Yeah its a great catalogue freaky! some way trick toys in there ,very hard to dig up any history/info on them though

[Freakshow]

Sorry this is a HAgon Catolouge says no 11 on it no year but looks early 70's

the sandrace looks like it silver powdercoating,  the sandracer mk 2 is chromed.
the long track frame looks the same but is leighter weight air craft steel so the ad says., differant frame for th eHagon B50. and hagon junior
Speedway, speedway springer are the last to frames in here.

[Freakshow]

except the sidecar stuff that is

[jimg1au]

the antig catolouge sandracers are the hagon sandracers the same dave perry took over making the frames and hagon just makes shocks.
jim

[jimg1au]

do you guys know the difference between the early and late 70s frames. the difference between longtrack and grasstrack frames.

jim

[huskibul]

   Ah freaky i thought you were talking about the current antig catalogue with all the trick laydowns etc etc   jim thats about as far as i can get with the antig/hagon history -that they took over hagon ,not sure what year that was and what models antig had previously and how far back -cheers

[huskibul]

   Hagon ? Maybe get onto the catalogue freaky was on

[jimg1au]

dont forget there were a few frame makers in the 60s 70s  80s in the uk and here. plus all the home made ones st george club members had access to a jig to make new frames or repair old ones it was at our place for a while.send jap454 a pm he can tell you a lot more than me.
freaky
long track bikes had a 22" rear wheel hagon only lengthened the swing arm the diamond was the same as the sand racers.
jawa and my longtrack roller use the speedway front end and have a much steaper stearing angle also the long swing arm for the 22" rear wheel

[huskibul]

    Yeah she's a ridgy didge put it up against close-ups of antigs and all welds /brackets same and machine pressed/cut ,we had a few homemade jobs around here as well so ive seen a few of them also over the years