Looking to identify, KTM?

[Rosco86]

I purchased a 1972 KTM/Penton Sachs 125 rolling frame a while back. Apparently a gentleman in Melbourne had modified it with an APSES motor and a different front and rear end. Have sorted amotor and redone the frame and now have an original rear wheel and swingarm.

I think the rear hub maybe a 75 (250) KTMs and a modified swing arm also. (I was going to use the hub in another bike o it has been powderoated black while silver seems to be the original.)

At a loss what the font end might be. Legs are 35mm abour 80m long and the lower yoke has ARCES, Made in Italy in raised lettering.

Any hel in identify ing these would be greatly appreciated.
Rosco86

[Rosco86]

[Rosco86]

[albrid-3]

Rosco86, I do know that Chris Fitzgerarld had a Aspe 125 some yours ago, it may be the same bike, i do have his contact no if you need it.

[Rosco86]

[albrid-3]

The forks look to be ceriani forks, early KTM had 32 mm ceriani.

[Davey Crocket]

The front hub looks like a Yamaha 322 type, the rim like a YZ250B/125C, the backing plate may be to suit but someone has drilled out the brake arm spline.

[ty4]

may have the correct front wheel will get a pic later

tony





12mm axle, would this be the right one??

hope it helps

[Rosco86]

Hey David
Your right on the money with that one. I've lost his number, can you pm it to me. I bought it from a young fella as a roller in Newcastle. Have everything except front end to bring her back to life. Catchya
Ross

[Nathan S]

The front hub looks like a Yamaha 322 type, the rim like a YZ250B/125C, the backing plate may be to suit but someone has drilled out the brake arm spline.

Agreed.

The rear hub looks incredibly like early 1980s YZ125. The brake plate doesn't look like Yamaha.

[Rosco86]

Ta Guys
Have been able to identify. Rear wheel is Yamaha 175IT, Front YZ125(D model i think), forks are from a 76 250 KTM while swingarm is a 74 KTM 400 (with modified rear mounts)
Thanks for the help.(Anyone have a set of 32mm ceranis and a full width KTM front hub?)
Rosco 86

[Nathan S]

.... Front YZ125(D model i think) ....

Its the pre-D hub - the only differences are:
1) the nine little webs between the spoke holes on the non-brake side (later hub doesn't have them).
2) the lack of three prongs to drive an IT speedo on the non-brake side (later hub has them).
3) the casting number in behind the brake plate (322 on this one, vs 1K7 on the later ones).

The front brake plate is non-leading-axle Yamaha MX bike: MX250/360/400, YZ125C/X, YZ250A/B/C, etc.

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