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« Reply #76 on: September 06, 2011, 09:26:24 pm »
You've hit the nail on the head Mike.....imagine how good it would be if we could wipe out the last 4 years of the worst Government we've ever had....and thats what people get wrong......we should be waayyyy better off and the most envied country in the world.....god forbid if the milky bar kid gets hold of the reins again....some people's sights are set too low.
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« Reply #77 on: September 06, 2011, 10:16:13 pm »
Sights set low? Currently, we've got our political sights wound down so low that we're looking at our own arseholes: Gillard or Abbott?! FFS, what sort of choice is that!?
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« Reply #78 on: September 07, 2011, 06:29:18 am »
I love a sunburnt country
 A land of sweeping plains
 But over run with greenies
 And nerds with shit for brains.

I love her far horizon
Full of illegals on the sea
But re elect Rudd and she'll be right
And lets raise the GST

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« Reply #79 on: September 07, 2011, 06:42:18 am »
Once a smiling Paki sat in his business suit
Underneath the shade of a mangrove tree
And he sat and he wondered where you sign up for Medicare
But he'd been dropped off at the wrong beach you see

North of Australia, North of Australia
He had been dropped off at the wrong beach you see
And he sat there and read his brochures on free housing
But he'd been dropped off at the wrong beach you see

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« Reply #80 on: September 07, 2011, 07:06:44 am »
Okay that's it, now it really is time to lock this topic down. ;)
Marc, that was awful.

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« Reply #81 on: September 07, 2011, 07:22:41 am »
Okay that's it, now it really is time to lock this topic down. ;)
Marc, that was awful.

Yep what would Banjo think ... god my vote is stuck with an alternative between Rudd and Fire Crotch .... looks like I am voting for the Shooters Party again  ::)
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« Reply #82 on: September 07, 2011, 07:36:47 am »
You on the saki MarC ;D
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« Reply #83 on: September 07, 2011, 07:48:54 am »
You on the saki MarC ;D

Yeah pretty much always on the sauce around here .... helps dilute the Iodine isotopes on the vegetables.

Anyway looking forward to my contract running out and hopefully with Margret Motu's permission I can re enter New Zealand./
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« Reply #84 on: September 07, 2011, 09:13:09 am »
 Has any one thought of how John howard would have got OZ through the GFC?
 Aside from that, JH was my political hero after he took over from Mr. Arrogance Supremo.
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« Reply #85 on: September 07, 2011, 09:44:07 am »
Has any one thought of how John howard would have got OZ through the GFC?
 Aside from that, JH was my political hero after he took over from Mr. Arrogance Supremo.

Ah John Howard, probably one of the best fiscal managers in Aussie political history, John would have skipped the unnecessary inflationary stimulus and gone straight for the austerity package.
The Australian financial sector was and still is in such good shape, very limited sub prime exposure and under such good management that they would have coped with Lehman without the Government burning up the tax payers cash.
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« Reply #86 on: September 07, 2011, 12:12:32 pm »
Yep.....wouldnt have taken part in the GFC......the only fall out would probably just been the superanuation losses.....but thats another story full of overpaid incompetent dickheads.
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« Reply #87 on: September 07, 2011, 12:37:00 pm »
Ah John Howard, probably one of the best fiscal managers in Aussie political history, ....

At the expense of infrastructure and that other tedious, unimportant stuff that governments are supposed to do.
Sure he and Costello saved cash very well, but they did it in pre-GFC economic boom and at the expense of actually building the nation.

We've all forgotten it, but the country was feeling very stale and we were riding a bubble of supposed wealth built on debt. The value of Rudd's stimulus spending can be argued forever without conclusion, but it did transfer some national savings into reducing personal debt and providing a transition period for exposed businesses (particularly construction and retail), which was indisputably of some value to the country as a whole.

I do know that Howard and Costello would have done an infinitely better job of convincing the punters that they'd done the right thing... And this undoubtedly would have had its own value to the country, when the market is so easily spooked.

Old mate Abbott had a plan for the GFC that every economist ridiculed as ineffective and would have undoubtedly allowed us to slide into recession. Even a mild recession would have cost the country significantly more than the stimulus spending, BTW... Gittens (among others) have detailed how/why this is so.


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« Reply #88 on: September 07, 2011, 02:16:37 pm »

At the expense of infrastructure and that other tedious, unimportant stuff that governments are supposed to do.
Sure he and Costello saved cash very well, but they did it in pre-GFC economic boom and at the expense of actually building the nation.

People forget oh so quickly that the biggest brake on exports from Australia immediately prior to GFC was the lack of rail and port infrastructure. The GFC saved the Fed Govt lots of embarrassment on that score.



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Howard and Costello were very good at cutting money from the states forcing them to cut essential services like Health and Education and blaming shortfalls on state inefficiencies and mismanagement. They still found money for there pet projects like unwanted F18a's ::).


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« Reply #89 on: September 07, 2011, 02:45:10 pm »
What would have happened if the , Pink Batt / Flatscreen TV / stuck in the floods / BER / and so on, money had been spent on upgrading rail / ports / High speed trains / State manufacturing ?

Socialist of me I know but I do wonder.

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