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Offline Slakewell

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Re: TM-Frame-RH-250-Motor-EX-Andy-Caldecotts
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2011, 10:51:13 am »
Is it a real 74 RH motor?
Eng # 10402
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Re: TM-Frame-RH-250-Motor-EX-Andy-Caldecotts
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2011, 11:01:35 am »
Maybe I wasn't paying attention or maybe time has blurred my memory but I seem to remember Andy doing most of his 250 class winning on a TM powered TM. I'm not doubting that Andy owned and raced this RH engined bike but it's a newie on me.

 Stumpy? Walter? am I right or wrong?
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Re: TM-Frame-RH-250-Motor-EX-Andy-Caldecotts
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2011, 11:05:06 am »
should the engine number have a rh in front off the numbers

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Re: TM-Frame-RH-250-Motor-EX-Andy-Caldecotts
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2011, 11:11:42 am »
should the engine number have a rh in front off the numbers
Yes it should have RH250-10402 ..but it does look like an RH engine and the numbers are right.
By those numbers it's a '75 motor but no difference to '74.

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Re: TM-Frame-RH-250-Motor-EX-Andy-Caldecotts
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2011, 11:14:30 am »
Maybe I wasn't paying attention or maybe time has blurred my memory but I seem to remember Andy doing most of his 250 class winning on a TM powered TM. I'm not doubting that Andy owned and raced this RH engined bike but it's a newie on me.

 Stumpy? Walter? am I right or wrong?
Yes Firko i only saw him on TM engined TM's but that was a long time ago, maybe this bike was near the end of his vintage racing days.

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Re: TM-Frame-RH-250-Motor-EX-Andy-Caldecotts
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2011, 11:30:32 am »
Firko
Maybe you could buy this and mount the engine in a Maico frame? That would be a cool pre 75 racer.
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Re: TM-Frame-RH-250-Motor-EX-Andy-Caldecotts
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2011, 11:41:08 am »
Jeeezus Slakey...I've done some dumb engine swaps over the years, who could forget the XL Honda powered Montesa King Scorpion that I sold you? but that one would top 'em all. There's only one place an RH engine should go .......in an RH frame (or maybe a Cheney Suzuki frame, to be a bit different and close to politically correct).

For what it's worth, the Suzuki motor probably won't fit....the offset exhaust would be blocked by the front downtube. It needs a single downtube frame....maybe a King Scorpion Monty ;D ;D
« Last Edit: August 27, 2011, 11:44:09 am by firko »
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Re: TM-Frame-RH-250-Motor-EX-Andy-Caldecotts
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2011, 11:49:26 am »
should the engine number have a rh in front off the numbers
Yes it should have RH250-10402 ..but it does look like an RH engine and the numbers are right.
By those numbers it's a '75 motor but no difference to '74.

JohnnyO...Why is it badged as a 250 and not sancasted ??
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Re: TM-Frame-RH-250-Motor-EX-Andy-Caldecotts
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2011, 12:30:25 pm »
The last 2 pics show another TM250 that is a TM250 Alison. Don't know why those pics are included in the RH/TM listing :-\

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Re: TM-Frame-RH-250-Motor-EX-Andy-Caldecotts
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2011, 01:04:26 pm »
should the engine number have a rh in front off the numbers
Yes it should have RH250-10402 ..but it does look like an RH engine and the numbers are right.
By those numbers it's a '75 motor but no difference to '74.

JohnnyO...Why is it badged as a 250 and not sancasted ??
thanks A
Alison the RH250 part of the engine # will be sand cast in the case if it is an RH engine

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Re: TM-Frame-RH-250-Motor-EX-Andy-Caldecotts
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2011, 01:10:53 pm »
Thanks for confirming..thats the magic photo on the sellers listing I was looking for... :P
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Re: TM-Frame-RH-250-Motor-EX-Andy-Caldecotts
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2011, 01:20:00 pm »
Alison that 2nd last pic of the ID plate riveted to the case is a TM engine i believe as i can see the oil injection line, the engine number on an RH is cast into the case below the front sprocket.
Maybe ask Rosco for a close up pic of it?

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Re: TM-Frame-RH-250-Motor-EX-Andy-Caldecotts
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2011, 01:30:58 pm »
Alison that 2nd last pic of the ID plate riveted to the case is a TM engine i believe as i can see the oil injection line, the engine number on an RH is cast into the case below the front sprocket.
Maybe ask Rosco for a close up pic of it?

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Re: TM-Frame-RH-250-Motor-EX-Andy-Caldecotts
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2011, 01:39:27 pm »
As I have said in another post...I can remember being on the starting line at Ravo many years ago at a Nats ...along side was 211 and next to him was A.C..... they were having a discussion about the RH motor in the TM at the time........that same meeting is the cover shot on VMX 1 (tho not actually numbered 1)....so that was 1998 and the RH is in it then....