Yep, pretty scuzzy rust bucket for $800. But I am sure someone will pay that for the thing. Like everything, prices seem pretty variable. People are still finding excellent straight bikes for under $500, and yet there are those like this one commanding a premium. As for DDR, well, I hope he's a little negotiable cos some of those are way over priced. But others seem reasonable for the money given they *look* like you'd get a nice tidy bike.