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Re: and teach your children well
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2008, 08:18:12 pm »
Just got one leatt neck brace off ebay $420, free freight from US.glad boy child and husband are the same size and race at different times.love that mastercard ;D ps thanks heeps gator
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Re: and teach your children well
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2008, 08:24:01 pm »
Thats a good price is that oz dollars ?.
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« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2008, 08:37:08 pm »
GO kart guy sell neck rolls on Ebay regualery for $27.    THere are some shitter but keep looking for this one as he has the better ones. if i can find hi email ill post his id.

At that price you can at least get yourself a starting point.
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« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2008, 08:43:14 pm »
I will have look on ebay and Geogh Taylors  Motorcycles have got a sale on this week ,will have allok there too.
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Re: and teach your children well
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2008, 09:15:44 pm »
Holy Shit, some of you simply don't get it!!!!!
Are you prepared to forgo $600 for a neck brace, and God forbid join the group of esteemed and revered riders like David Baily, Jimmy Button, Ernesto Fonseca, Niki Urwin and Wayne Rainey?

No one has said that the Leatt (or similar device) will definitively save you from life changing events, but i don't want to be the person that says "If Only ......"

Having to find $600 to replace a piston/rings and a rod kit in your pride and joy will not stop you racing/riding forever, a busted body will.

Stop fu#*&ing around, forget wether it will get cheaper in time and get the correct safety gear. In 6 months time you will have forgotten about the cost.

And did i have the money to buy one - Nope. Did i go to the bank and extend my VISA by $500 - You Bet!!
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« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2008, 09:26:17 pm »
Bahnsy, I think you'll find the main problem is not only the cost. It's 2 fold. It's expensive and it's new (sort of, for bikes at least) anything new is met with some reservation, especially when one has been set in their ways for so long. I mentioned I'd like to try 1 first, maybe that's a dumb thing to say but I too feel a little sceptical that I would feel comfortable..I felt exactly the same about the back brace too until I bought 1 last year..now I do not ride without it simple as that!..I think it's just a matter of time as with anything new. Jumping up and down doesn't really do a lot, if enough people put into practice it'll soon spread and hopefully become par for the course for many more before it's too late, myself included.

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« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2008, 09:28:09 pm »
Well Bahnsy i like to think i did good tonight as i have a father and son wearing one now.good move vmx 247 for your son

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« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2008, 09:53:34 pm »
Passionate, persistant, perhaps even anal :)
I was 15 odd meters away when i watched the Kawasaki go down with Niki Urwin on board at Wonthaggi. My best friend is extremely close to Bronte Holland and i have seen the effect on him. Don't wish that situation on anyone.

If anyone is travelling to the VIPER/Dandenong MCC weekend at Wonthaggi this coming weekend and you are serious about buying a Leatt neck brace, i will forgo any riding sessions so that you can try mine for a few laps.
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« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2008, 09:54:33 pm »
Today, I took me young bloke (8 years) old up to the quarry near my place where we always go for a quick lap or two, hes riding around and around quarry used a a dumping ground for woodchip after the Newcastle storms, goes behind a woodchip pile and doesnt come out the other side, start to run around to where he should be and there he is laying on the ground motionless, FARK comes to mind and a im into sprint of a world class athlete (100m in under ten seconds), get to him and hes laying there bike stuck on one leg, no arm movment, no head movement, nothin but just laying there, yelled at him where ya hurt and looks up at me and says just me knee a bit sore, gets up hobbles around, gets back on and off he goes again, point is scared the shit out of me and now hes going to get the Leatt brace to go with every other piece of safety equipment available, (and he has everything from head to toe but not a neck brace). I'll get one too because he likes to wear the same stuff as his old man and we wont go riding without. I reckon I got pretty lucky it was not serious but shit like that gives you a hell of a wake up reality check (thank fu_k), seeing your kids hurting is about the lowest feeling you can get, thing is could of ended up a lot worse,better get back to evilbay and start looking ;)

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« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2008, 10:10:38 pm »
I know this is not leatt but principles the same, anyone heard of this version as seems same logistics to the leatt, not as flash looking, half the price but this is not an issue as $429 Australian from US distributor for the Leatt with free shipping

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-FRO-SYSTEMS-MOTOCROSS-QUAD-CHILDRENS-NECK-BRACE_W0QQitemZ110226545907QQihZ001QQcategoryZ42507QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Re: and teach your children well
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2008, 11:12:59 pm »
Rosco,
I saw one of these in a bike shop about a week ago, they are apparently just moulded polystyrene foam covered in material, they are lighter than a leatt but non adjustable and definatly not as comfortable.
I would question how much research the manufacturer has put into this brace, I and my kids have the leatt brace and it seems to be fairly inferior and i doubt it would offer the same protection as a leatt, but on the flip side it probably offer you more protection than nothing at all.
Durability could also be questioned, I have stood on my brace in full gear withjout any ill effects, where as I think this one might struggle with my 100kgs without snaping something.
I guess as usual you get what you pay for.

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« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2008, 08:27:01 am »
Fifteen years ago everybody was sooking that knee-braces were too dear but those of us who had to work on a Monday bought them.
How anyone can justify not spending the equivelent on a neck-brace is beyond me.
As the man said. For most of us the price of a piston kit would be the equivelent of a Leatte Clubman brace (get the fuggin' thing off of Ebay!).
If you have to buy one for your kids, sell a bike or two.
You'll have to sell ALL your bikes if you or your kid breaks his/her neck.
I can't see any room for argument on this one...... ???
« Last Edit: February 25, 2008, 08:30:32 am by All Things 414 »

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« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2008, 04:31:48 pm »
BTO sports have a EVS neck brace for $159 US.http://www.btosports.com/p/EVSRCEVO Doesn't look too bad. I read in another forum where I guy I had met in the past was running in the Australian Safari. At the end of each day he would log onto the thread and post pics and a story of his days racing. I noticed in a pic he was wearing a Leatt brace. I thought "good idea." Anyway he ended up crashing bick time. Broke his neck and the brace. He's okay, he sent the brace back to Leatt to be repaired. Leatt called the contact number to ask how he was, judging by the damage to the brace, they thought he was dead or badly crippled. He probably would be if he wasn't wearing it at all.
It's a good read at  http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264552&highlight=australian+safari+pilbara
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Re: and teach your children well
« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2008, 10:42:13 pm »

I can't see any room for argument on this one...... ???


While I’m not against these things I’ll give it a shot.

Spinal injuries are at the heart of our greatest fear, & emotions can run high when remembering our slain hero’s, but how many of these would have been saved? Rainey & Bailey were both masters of their craft so it came as quite a shock to read of their plight, but I thought that they had both been hit in the lower back by their own bikes. I didn’t research this debate but was it Jesseman that cased out over a double & compressed & bruised his spine??
Neck injuries are rare & while these things will find you when you least expect it, most of these recent injuries come from Freestyle & Supercross stuff.
By all means buy one if you can afford it but I don’t see the need to become paranoid because your kid falls over on his peewee (Sorry Rossco, I know too well the panic you felt)

The urgency of the need for one depends more on the riding that you do.
My son & I both need new boots, he’s outgrown his again & mine are as old as, & I consider these a higher priority than a neck brace as we are both more likely to suffer a foot injury while riding around our tracks.
If my son started racing or jumping doubles I would get him one.
If I ever get the chance to ride Finke I would definitely get one.
If I start racing half seriously I would consider one.
But for most of the riding we do I will go out on a limb here & so I’m not going to bother.

And should they be compulsory for juniors. I would say yes for any kid that rides Supercross, but not for a kid riding your average local race or club day.
MA have made it compulsory for juniors to wear body armour, these are cheap enough & can be obtained second hand even cheaper.

MA have also bought in a log book system before your kid can race but what does it really achieve? They are seen to be safety conscious but what I hear a lot about is the lack of practice available for junior races (& seniors for that matter)
If your sending kids out to race on a track they hardly know then yes their going to come home with injuries. Clubs seem more concerned about their tracks being shredded than having riders know the track.

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