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Offline HL400

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CCM 500 1973
« on: February 21, 2011, 10:55:01 am »
Hi there CCM experts, can some tell me are there any major differences betwen the 1973 CCM and the 1974 model.
there is a 1973 CCM on Ebay at the moment and I am thinking on making and offer.  HL

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Re: CCM 500 1973
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2011, 11:11:53 am »
I beleive its mostly the rear end of the frames which are slightly different.
The 74 has the shocks mounted a bit further forward.

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Re: CCM 500 1973
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2011, 12:25:36 pm »
The main difference that I'm aware of is that the '74 model has forward mounted rear suspension a la '74 Maico. Below is a shot of Jonesys genuine '74 showing the swingarm and rear subframe and dear old Frank Melling testing a '73 back in the day. I'm fairly sure everything else is similar between the two models.


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Re: CCM 500 1973
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2011, 03:07:30 pm »
just rear shock angle
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Re: CCM 500 1973
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2011, 11:07:09 pm »
She's up to 4k ..jumped 2k today with 7 days to go...pretty popular  8)
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Re: CCM 500 1973
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2011, 07:51:38 am »
Upto 6000, realistic value probably 15K
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Re: CCM 500 1973
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2011, 07:56:48 am »
i spoke to him yesterday .take out a bank loan

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Re: CCM 500 1973
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2011, 08:06:06 am »
The two models are light years apart. Frames are totally different.
Bottom frame tubes, swingarm, rear seat tubes, top tube, airbox, shock mounting and angle, forks etc etc.
As lovely as the 74 looks, my favorite is still the 73. Ok, I am biased, but I do love them all.
Be prepared to pay a premium for them though. Also budget for a good going through. It may say "race ready" but don't believe it !
Money pits they are, but on full song they are superb. I always run mine on good old R40. My engines have been reliable for many years.
Most engine sizes were available in 73. For me the short stroker is the best. Revs to the moon, and still outdrags the later 2smokes to the first corner.
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Re: CCM 500 1973
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2011, 09:00:05 am »
Took me a while, but I found it.
This is a 73 frame. Muchly different to the 74.
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Re: CCM 500 1973
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2011, 09:06:36 am »
Hi,
 
You are dead right about them being a money pit,  BA, BSF Cycle thread, Whitworth, UNF, UNC, Metric coarse, Metric fine, are just a selection of the thread forms that I found,
There is a good website,Thumperpilots, for CCM's particularly to see the model changes from 73 onward ,although most have been modified from their original form.
CCM Britain can still make you a new CCM if you're are serious about your VMXing
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Re: CCM 500 1973
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2011, 09:52:26 am »
Just found the listing ........
If it goes for less than $10k AUS then you have a good deal. It looks to be all there.
Yes, CCM Britain (or Performance Engineering Services) can provide all the parts. The frame pic I posted was a new one Mark built for me a year or so ago. It is exactly the same as my original one. The original fork yokes are now available, but made thankfully from billet alloy ! No more shattering ! Same goes for the hubs. Don't even think of welding them.
I have just made a pair of fork sliders as per oe CCM. Not too much work, but looks loads better than Betors or spirious Jap ones.
The 90/90 bore stroke makes it a 580. Maybe a bit much for a 73 if it is built correctly.
I would love to buy it, but shipping to the UK would be stupid money. I keep telling myself "I have enough bikes".
You can never have enough ........
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Re: CCM 500 1973
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2011, 10:06:40 am »

You are dead right about them being a money pit,  BA, BSF Cycle thread, Whitworth, UNF, UNC, Metric coarse, Metric fine, are just a selection of the thread forms that I found,

Yeah my Cheney runs all of those threads, I heard funny story that old Eric got  a cheap job lot of metric bolts from the RAF so just started using them. BSA motor has all the threads under the sun.

Regarding price I was told that some of the pumped up methanol Cheneys have AUD 30K in them. Price up NEB stroker crank, cast iron barrel, clutch, 3 speed box, interspan ignition, Omega piston and you are getting into 5 figures in anyones money quite rapidly.

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Re: CCM 500 1973
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2011, 12:05:27 pm »
I keep telling myself "I have enough bikes".
You can never have enough ........
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Re: CCM 500 1973
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2011, 06:10:04 pm »
The original fork yokes are now available, but made thankfully from billet alloy ! No more shattering ! Same goes for the hubs. Don't even think of welding them.

Funny Rod Spry is just describing welding up a set of CCM hubs in the latest Classic Dirt Bike, he reckons they will be Ok for parading.
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Re: CCM 500 1973
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2011, 06:12:19 pm »
I keep telling myself "I have enough bikes".
You can never have enough ........
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