POMEROYS RACE WINNING BULTACO

[firko]

Mark, the quantum leap I refer to is in what you posted:  in the 1st post you said Ron couldn't shed any light on the subject, & that his take was that he thought the bike was a stocker - rather indefinite to say the least - then in the later post you said he "denies" the US-made/cro-mo bit.

Interpret it any way you choose John, I think most others understood what I was saying.

[Slakewell]

I think we just wish to think what is important to us is very important to the people it happened to. Maybe just maybe the win and bike just wasn’t that important to Jim. Maybe after 30 years of stories and beer and bullshit things became blurred in his mind so the story changed.

[firko]

The "American frame" interview with Pomeroy was made in 1973 or 1974 Mick.

[VMX247]

Sometimes I think I'm having too much to say here

Never 

Maybe after 30 years of stories and beer and bullshit things became blurred in his mind so the story changed.

They all where very busy racing times, with so many moto placings and podium positions.Only perhaps half of it was documented.
I dont know how they remember any on it,but emotionally.
cheers A

[JC]

Mark, the quantum leap I refer to is in what you posted:  in the 1st post you said Ron couldn't shed any light on the subject, & that his take was that he thought the bike was a stocker - rather indefinite to say the least - then in the later post you said he "denies" the US-made/cro-mo bit.

Interpret it any way you choose John, I think most others understood what I was saying.

Unfortunately, Ron couldn't shed any further light on the subject

Its a bit hard to take that any other way.    I'm not trying to be smart or difficult, nor playing at semantics. I understood you to mean that Ron couldn't add anything to the debate.

[firko]

Jeez John.....one last time...Ron said it was a stock frame. I wrote that in the first post and I figured it was pretty easy to understand. He couldn't shed any further light on what he'd told me (other than it being a stock frame). Stop being so pedantic, and let it go. Getting tangled up on wording is a waste of time and your considerable talent. . I'm going to the shed for some spanner action on my own chro-mo frame .

[JC]

Careful, yes; pedantic, no.    I take care to read every post like the respondant meant what he said & said what he meant. Anyway, 'nuff said on that.


I know who I believe out of what JP said  & what Ron P said. 


Here's another bit of useful info that vindicates the decision to give JP the trick bike over his team mates (Apart from the Spanish victory). Not one other 250 Bul rider scored a single point the whole season!
 

[Davey Crocket]

Just build the fricken thing will ya Jerry.....it's turning into a Suzuki footpeg saga.... ....hope your feeling better Mark...with a K!!!

[Hoony]

Just build the fricken thing will ya Jerry.....it's turning into a Suzuki footpeg saga.... ....hope your feeling better Mark...with a K!!!

 

yes and we want update shots as you progress.

[jerry]

Hi Al didn't I open a jar of worms. Promise to post some photo's when my son's girlfriend shows me how!

[gordon67]

Just build the fricken thing will ya Jerry.....it's turning into a Suzuki footpeg saga.... ....hope your feeling better Mark...with a K!!!
[
/quote]Good idea that Jerry....its riding them thats important.....get on with it

[Stan S]

Well done Jerry for opening up a great debate. Yourself, JC, Firko, Husibul, etc, etc have added some very interesting aspects to the debate and I hope we find out more conclusive evidence in the future about JP's frame but as it stands I think it was more than likely a pre production MK7 frame. I think for a small Euro factory, Bultaco did an amazing job to achieve what they did on the world stage against the then arriving powerhouses of the Japanese and other Euro manufacturers. I would like to list the Australian acheivements of the Bulatco marque on Australian scramble/motocross scene from 1971 to 1975 but I fear there is not enough capacity on this forum No really I am biased but this little Spanish motorcycle company did very well compared to the tsunamy of manufacturers ready to engulf them in the later 70's.
Great debate Jerry, cheers.

Stan.

[VMX247]

Just build the fricken thing will ya Jerry.....it's turning into a Suzuki footpeg saga.... ....hope your feeling better Mark...with a K!!!

yes and we want update shots as you progress.

Hi Al didn't I open a jar of worms. Promise to post some photo's when my son's girlfriend shows me how!

Alterative motive...he just wants to see more big bores ripping up the paddocks     
cheers A

[JC]

Here's a pic from CDB #15 of JP at the 7th GP in France, still w 4" travel:



Melling wrote again in 2000 (VMX#7 p 67): "Bultaco were slow in reacting to the long travel suspension revolution"


And an interesting quote from Vic Allan from same mag:

"The best 250 Bultaco I ever rode was one that the legendary Aussie tuner Bert Flood prepared for me to ride when I was competing over there, & it was very fast. In fact the first time I tried it... the extra power shot me over the back & onto the ground."

[jerry]

Great photo John confirms rear brake stay and holeless rear sprocket as well as "Bultaco" decal. Not sure but the seat seems to have grown in length. Thanks Jerry