Chinese motocross bikes

[TooFastTim]

I, for one, welcome our Chinese overlords 

[Stan S]

I've said before - been in mineral processing for 30 years now and the current forged Chinese mill balls we are using are the best I have ever seen and are saving me hundreds of thousands of dollars a year - and at a cheaper price to buy!

Just of out of interest Rossco the mill balls that you are buying from China, are they also known as Ragging Balls as we were making these by the MIM process in Ballarat for Gekko from 5mm to 65mm with what ever sg needed.

Regards Stan.

[Marc.com]

I, for one, welcome our Chinese overlords 

Having lived their for 3 years and worked as engineer I don't particularly.

In a lot of cases what you are seeing is the effect of overseas operations and licensees of Honda, Isuzu, Mitsubishi, VW etc etc bringing the quality expectations to the table, in the same way as they bought the designs a decade ago. Korea also went through this process with Hyundai being supported by Mitsubishi, Mercedes with Sangyang, GM with Daewoo. The influence of the companies with FDI still positively effects the whole industry in China.

[TooFastTim]

I was being facecious Marc.

The reputation of the Chinese in Africa is not good. There have been some very unpleasant incidents in Zambia and a member of the govt in that country has stated that they wish they didn't need Chinese investment. Odd then that the govts of Zimbabwe and South Africa do not pay heed to Zambias experience.

However returning to the OP it does make me wonder how much profit the Euros and Japs are making on a bike and whether the labour costs are that much greater in Europe and Japan.

[oldskool]

i had a jianshe 200 full size road trail looked like ttr sounded like ttr kept up with xr 200's no trouble at all except when the xr hit 6th.only down fall was 5 speed and weak as piss but very reliable jianshe is part owned by yamaha.cheers gary

[number8]

All the Major Japanese Factories have collaboration with Chinese factories as it is now and a lot of models from the Big 4 are coming out of China,such as the RM80,I think you will find they have the ability to make and engineer anything to a certain spec and when the Western or Japanese Manufactures require something to a certain spec they can do it,There own branded stuff is a bit ordinary is some areas but they are manufactured to a price,

#8

[EML]

So VMX circa 2030 will be the odd CRF, YZF, RMZ etc... but mainly 2015 model Jinchengs, Yamamotos et al... dominating. Yuk !

[VMX247]

So VMX circa 2030 will be the odd CRF, YZF, RMZ etc... but mainly 2015 model Jinchengs, Yamamotos et al... dominating. Yuk !

Aint we lucky its not our vintage   
cheers A

[Slakewell]

Do they make a good XR 80 copy?
I havent seen one if they do.

[firko]

Do they make a good XR 80 copy?

Mick, send 'em a couple of clear pictures and they'll have one done for you by next Monday.

[Mike52]

Gav Mcleod,s dad said of the Taiwanese  "they could copy anything".
Weren,t much good at inventing stuff though.
Mike

[Slakewell]

Do they make a good XR 80 copy?

Mick, send 'em a couple of clear pictures and they'll have one done for you by next Monday.

Firko I still have XL 75 which I can register for a pit bike, I thought if I blended the two 

[TooFastTim]

Gav Mcleod,s dad said of the Taiwanese  "they could copy anything".
Weren,t much good at inventing stuff though.
Mike

Same could be said of the Japs. But one exception leaps to (my) mind. Yagi! The chap who designed the antenna that bears his name. Marc, anything to add? Stuffed if I can think of anything else. Just goes to show that we as "round-eyes" must get our act together and work smart not hard.

P.s. dunno who came up with variable valve timing or VVT as Honda call it. Bruddy simple and clever. Anybody know who invented it?

[TooFastTim]

Nevermind. VVT can be traced back to the 1920 when it was implemented by Bristol aircraft engines. Porsche patented it in 1958.

[Rossvickicampbell]

I agree with Marc - the Chinese are listening to overseas experience and going forward in leaps and bounds - maybe some people could learn from this.

Stan - no ours are just classed as mill grinding balls - 50-60mm and then 100-125mm for SAG And ball mill grinding of our gold ore.

And Craigy - I know you were being facetious - God when aren't you  - but we went from Australian balls to chinese because the Australian ones had too high a breakage rate - Chiense ones are classed as less than 1% - could not try them just based on dollars.

I would still rather my Holden than a great Wall - but I wonder for how long?