VMX247, they are all still around but don't race any more (all still have bikes and ride regularly). Flinky had a health scare recently but is OK now. Cactus Martens travels a fair bit doing country and western gigs around Australia (he is a regular at Tamworth) and Peter Bowden recently built my apartment and is travelling very well. He and his son Josh head over your way regularly for building jobs, so don't be surprised to see them bob up at one of your events.