Classic Dirt 7 Queensland 2010

[VMX247]

Rodger H doing it with Vaugh F


Some many photos can have captions 

[Hoony]

I didn't know Roger rode the Chair?

i would have had a go if i had know and found a willing chair owner.

[VMX247]

I didn't know Roger rode the Chair?

i would have had a go if i had know and found a willing chair owner.

He didn't till Sunday     
Yes I'm sure the owners would of obliged you Mr Hoony  some asked,but didn't show.Maybe this was due to Macca announcing on the load speakers the body organ damage report for Popeye   
always next year   
cheers

[Doggy Digger]

I'd be careful, Hoony.  Scariest thing I've ever experienced on a bike.  It was terrifying! (And I thought I'd cleverly taken the easy way out by driving ... so I wouldn't wind up in the chair)     

It was an absolute battle to keep straight.      Every time I thought we had a chance to open the throttle, she'd wickedly spear right and try to leave the track.

I stalled it at the edge of drop-off peak of giant downhill ... and wanted to walk back.   (But it takes two to return the beast to startline)   Hardly got it over idle the whole way round.

You sidecar DRIVERS are legends ... passengers too.   Fearless cast-iron gods.

Thanks heaps though, EML.    You sure were right - something I'll never forget!

[Hoony]

no worries Roger, i Raced a KTM540 powered EML in late 80's with some success for a year and served my apprenticeship swinging for for 18 mths in early 80's.

i would need to be sprayed with WD40 as i am rusty though ! 

[Tim754]

Hoony I have a son that wants to take an old, tame, lame, lightweight and very mildly tuned at only a miserable 100+hp Pre75  Honda 754 (well it is 836cc at present ..or maybe 898 or even 920 if I put that one back together..  to the next CD, he says he just wants a happy bright soul to be passenger ,and perhaps take over the riding for a few laps. Cheers Tim754 ( The HBBB too )

[BAHNZY]

For the people that diddn't hang around till the last chair session on Sunday, u missed an audio delight. One of the chairs was described as sounding like "a sprintcar" don't know what it was or what was done to it but I reckon you would have heard the sweet noise from Brisbane. The noise alone made me want to have a crack at riding it!

[Hoony]

Hoony I have a son that wants to take an old, tame, lame, lightweight and very mildly tuned at only a miserable 100+hp Pre75  Honda 754 (well it is 836cc at present ..or maybe 898 or even 920 if I put that one back together..  to the next CD, he says he just wants a happy bright soul to be passenger ,and perhaps take over the riding for a few laps. Cheers Tim754 ( The HBBB too )

i would Love too Tim.

[270YAM]

For the people that diddn't hang around till the last chair session on Sunday, u missed an audio delight. One of the chairs was described as sounding like "a sprintcar" don't know what it was or what was done to it but I reckon you would have heard the sweet noise from Brisbane. The noise alone made me want to have a crack at riding it!

I think that mite have been sidecar legend Geoff Udy in the last session having a spin on my XS Yamaha powered Wasp replica 

[BAHNZY]

Geoff was the throttle man, but that thing sounds like no XS I've ever heard. In all seriousness it would be a real treat to record that engine noise in much the same manner as the H16 F1 car from 1949. if you get a chance drop over to YouTube and have a listen to the clip of pink floyds drummers car at  a track in England and you will get the idea. The exhaust note from that chair is by far one of the best I have ever heard.

[Hoony]

post the link to Nick Mason's car Bahnsy.

[Stan S]

Geoff was the throttle man, but that thing sounds like no XS I've ever heard. In all seriousness it would be a real treat to record that engine noise in much the same manner as the H16 F1 car from 1949. if you get a chance drop over to YouTube and have a listen to the clip of pink floyds drummers car at  a track in England and you will get the idea. The exhaust note from that chair is by far one of the best I have ever heard.

Gday Bahnsy, I do totally agree about the sound of that XS engine. I asked EML about it and he said the firing order had been changed and the 2 cylinders fire like a big single. It sounded awesome.

Stan.

[BAHNZY]

This is without doubt the best engine noise ever, but the chair engine from CD7 comes pretty close.
Remember this is an engine that was designed & built in 1949 and was essentially 2 horizontally opposed 8 cylinder engines (think vw & Subaru) bolted one on top of each other displacing around 1300cc and reving to 9000 rpm. The noise you hear is the fuel freezing as it comes out of the supercharger causing the splutter. The project was doomed due to the sheer weight of the engine & it's reliability.

A mate of mine was at Goodwood the year it was run there and it was louder than the F1 cars that were there - Awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZMPDCNyQxE&feature=youtube_gdata

[270YAM]

Geoff was the throttle man, but that thing sounds like no XS I've ever heard. In all seriousness it would be a real treat to record that engine noise in much the same manner as the H16 F1 car from 1949. if you get a chance drop over to YouTube and have a listen to the clip of pink floyds drummers car at  a track in England and you will get the idea. The exhaust note from that chair is by far one of the best I have ever heard.

Gday Bahnsy, I do totally agree about the sound of that XS engine. I asked EML about it and he said the firing order had been changed and the 2 cylinders fire like a big single. It sounded awesome.

Stan.

Thanks for the nice comments lads,

Heres a bit of info on the engine:
The firing order has been changed, however it doesn't fire as a single.
Instead of firing every 360'degrees, (parallel twin 4 stroke), it fires 270'-450'-270'-450'degrees and so on.
The right hand crankpin is 90'degrees ahead of the left one.
This is the same firing offset as a 90degree V-twin (ducati, good noise), but instead of the cylinders being 90degrees apart, the crank is.

The main objective of this was to reduce vibration, which it has done significantly.
It has turned it into a really smooth reving engine with loads of torque, and the traction is amazing due to the un-even firing pulse going through the back wheel.

Matt.

[GD66]

This is without doubt the best engine noise ever, but the chair engine from CD7 comes pretty close.
Remember this is an engine that was designed & built in 1949 and was essentially 2 horizontally opposed 8 cylinder engines (think vw & Subaru) bolted one on top of each other displacing around 1300cc and reving to 9000 rpm. The noise you hear is the fuel freezing as it comes out of the supercharger causing the splutter. The project was doomed due to the sheer weight of the engine & it's reliability.

A mate of mine was at Goodwood the year it was run there and it was louder than the F1 cars that were there - Awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZMPDCNyQxE&feature=youtube_gdata

You are confusing the V16 BRM in the clip with the H16 engine which won at Watkins Glen in 1966 fitted to Jimmy Clark's Lotus 43 : that was the layout you have described above, two flat eights in piggyback. Nick Mason's car is a V16, as used from 1951 to 1954. Still a 'kin AWESOME noise...