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oz555ktm

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Cost Of a Race Licence !! Less for Vintage
« on: May 31, 2010, 11:02:01 pm »
 Just renewing My Race Licence for 2010 Senior National $275.00 + $5 card surcharge = $280.00

 I think we should try and get a Special Restricted Vintage Licence  ??

 Why?  I think that most Vintage Riders May only ride Vintage Events Only.

 Why? The Cost of a Licence goes to the Cost of Insurance.
          I think that the Vintage is Low risk.
          Speed is NOT a Big Risk and Vintage it is much slower than Modern Bike meeting.
          Jumps, We to not clear any big jumps and we Dont try any Funny tricks .
          I also think we ride much safer. 
         We do not want to get injured and we only ride to your ability..

  Now   A Restricted Vintage Licence You could only ride at a Vintage Meeting only....
             But you mite have to Upgrade to run at an Australian Title.

         If you rode at Modern meeting would need a Normal Club or National Licence...


  Now   MNSW Motorcycling N.S.W does a Restricted National License for

            Moto Trials and Fast 50s and they can be up to 150cc 

            And they Only Pay  $185.00 
         
            I think that Fast 50s would be a Higher Risk than Vintage Mx .

    I open this up to you all.


       


 
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Re: Cost Of a Race Licence
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2010, 11:11:54 pm »
I like the way you're thinking.

I also reckon that most vintage riders also ride less events per year, which reduces the risk even further.

You'd want to make sure that it covered Vinduros and probably Vintage Dirt track too.

And I wonder how the Viper guys would go? I can't see how this would help them.
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Re: Cost Of a Race Licence
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2010, 07:36:36 am »
hi
i will ride up to 8 club race days a year including dirt track nationala its still better than 1 day licence price
plus extra if i go to other clubs club days ie canberra or newcastle will try and get the grass track day later in the year
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Re: Cost Of a Race Licence
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2010, 08:21:38 am »
If you have a seniors card does it make a difference? And should it? Jerry

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Re: Cost Of a Race Licence
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2010, 08:48:51 am »
Its not insurance it's mostly because MA is not fiscally responsible.
A CAMS license with simular risks in normally a quater of MA price.
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Re: Cost Of a Race Licence
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2010, 08:52:08 am »
Umm, it is an interesting question. Some of the Viper guys actually dish out a Day Licence fee each event, with that cost, it would be cheaper if they did get a National Licence, but the upfront fee I guess plus the testing fee maybe it's just as easy to go the day licence way. Consider also the costs involved in running a motocross club, Track permits, Rider levies, Member affliation fees, Day Licences, 1 day Rec Licences, then there's the Track Licence fee, we paid out $18,000 to MV last year, nice if we got something back as in some funding in return rather than hit clubs and riders in the hip pocket all the time  :-\

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Re: Cost Of a Race Licence
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2010, 08:53:27 am »
Makes sense as an option though, doesn't it? If you want to ride normal club days etc then get a club or national licence. But if the option is there for a vintage licence, and it can be used for vintage only club events, then I think it would benefit many of us. Especially if it could be negotiated down to a reasonable price, like $100-150 for the year.

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Re: Cost Of a Race Licence
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2010, 10:36:31 am »
With the amount of events that I do, I worked out that it's about the same price to buy day licenses each time. Plus there is the testing fee, and a big whack of ach up front . Also, if you miss an event due to unforeseen reasons you don't feel like you've wasted the money on the annual license.

This will sound like a weird question, but what exactly are you paying for with these licenses anyway?

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Re: Cost Of a Race Licence
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2010, 11:05:55 am »
Hi Tex,

$44.00 each, Viper charge a little extra to cover admin costs to the clubs.

Shall I put you down for Viper at Wonthaggi  ???

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Re: Cost Of a Race Licence
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2010, 11:55:52 am »

This will sound like a weird question, but what exactly are you paying for with these licenses anyway?

Tex

Your paying to support the bureaucracy of MA even thou you have little or no say in how it's run or what it spends your money on.
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Re: Cost Of a Race Licence
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2010, 12:33:39 pm »
Oh, I know how much they are! I promise to get my entry in on time for Wonthaggi Mrs Maico!

Slakewell was on the right track, but want I want to know is literally what does this fee pay for? (I'm not having a go at MA).

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Re: Cost Of a Race Licence
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2010, 12:38:39 pm »
THey should have a Vintage licence.   ( you can get one for your car from the REGO dept )
A full Nat licence is absurb.  And the costing is well out there for sure.
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Re: Cost Of a Race Licence
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2010, 02:22:24 pm »
for dirt track we have 1 classic club day and a national.6 rounds of club mod/classic racing in sydney.total of $425.00 1 day licences.
the vmx bikes are not that slower than the moderns
open class 490 maico 38.954sec fastest lap in 3.5 laps
450 modern 4stroke   38.114sec  fastest lap in 3.5 laps
vmx 125                  39.803sec  fastest lap in 3.5
mod 125                  38.645sec  fastest lap in 3.5
vmx 250                  39.179sec  fastest lap in 3.5
mod 2502stroke        37.821sec  fastest lap same rider as on vmx250
mod 250 4stroke       37.888sec  fastest lap these were taken from april meeting
as you can see the best vmx riders can hold there own in with the moderns last meeting 1974cr125 won modern 125 race.
we have seperate races for modern and vmx.all have the same amount of rides.
so how can you give a discount to vmx riders when they use the same amount of track time as the moderns.

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Re: Cost Of a Race Licence
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2010, 04:24:46 pm »
As I understand it 2009 was the last time one could get a day licence more than ONCE. From now on its a one day licence then no more rides until you get a full MA licence be it for open or club events. Unfortunately in my case i'll be missing out riding at the upcoming events at Nepean 'till finances permit the full licence fee. cheers wally.
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Re: Cost Of a Race Licence
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2010, 05:40:26 pm »
The more events you do the cheaper it works out, for me I like to get in around 8-10 ride  events  each year ( so far I have 5 up my sleeve )

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