Whats your choice? Fuel, Oil & Ratio

[LWC82PE]

Powerstand - I would recommend/use the Belray Si7 at around 20:1. No real need to spend the extra $ on MC1. I can tell ya im a lot more comfortable knowing theres more lubricating oil than less and i would rather listen to engine builders/tuners than oil manufacturers.

[VMX247]

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any info from the far north Queenslander's on Sucrogen for bikes.

http://www.v8supercarevents.com.au/Townsville/news/news029.htm
Ethanol
Australia’s leader in ethanol
Now known as  Sucrogen BioEthanol it is one of two major Australian producers of ethanol products, supplying over half of the domestic Food & Beverage and Industrial market as well as supplying the growing fuel market in Australia.

Sucrogen BioEthanol produces its ethanol (ethyl alcohol) by fermenting molasses, a by-product of sugar production.  Sucrogen BioEthanol’s Sarina Distillery in Queensland produces 60 million litres of ethanol per year.

[Rossvickicampbell]

just opened up my YZ 360 after two years (but not that many meetings but one occassion of really really hot) - run Silkolene Comp 2 + at 40:1 with BP Ultimate (although looking at changing to Vortex just coz I dont like BP as a company anymore ) and minimal carbon on top of the piston, no lumpy buildup, not much blow by and oil evrywhere it was needed.  As others have said - find what your happy with and there you go.

Dont dispute what Lozza was saying but my bike runs reliably and I hate playing with jetting so don't want to change.

cheers

[monaro308]

We've been testing E85 at work for over a year now and it eats into normal fuel lines ie metal,rubber.
Fuel pumps,any rubber and fuel lines (stainless) need to be specifically ethanol compatable.
The C/dore VE series2 due out in October will be E85 compliant and has a flex fuel sensor...almost like a breath alyser and detects the amount of ethanol in the fuel and adjusts the timing and fuel maps to suit the fuel range from unleaded to 85% ethanol.
Power wise...the same and maybe a little more,but uses anywhere between 25-40% more.
It is a bitch in cold conditions(on a non computerised internal combustion engine) to start.
If the goverment can keep their dirty greedy mitts off the excise tax (reported to be about 12cents per litre)
it will work out cheaper to run even though you use more...plus its renewable energy and we will never run out and make more jobs,plus export because of Australia's ideal conditions to grow sugar cane.

Thats my edgimacational talk for the day

[VMX247]

If the goverment can keep their dirty greedy mitts off the excise tax (reported to be about 12cents per litre)

why do they continue to do this shit,no surprise ideas go belly up ..

Thanks for the info Mr Monaro very edgimacational 
cheers A

[oldfart]

So,  we are seeing more and more diabetic dependant cars hit our roads. I wonder what sort of an effect it has on the internals ( bore -valves etc ) after 5 years

[Davey Crocket]

Probably fuc it Stu......V8 supercars use the shit...they use 30% more fuel than when they ran normal feul and the engines have a life span of 50% less....what the?...it's all bullshit, but when goverments get involved in projects and use taxpayers money, the spin doctors come out to play and it's usually downhill from there....

[monaro308]

So,  we are seeing more and more diabetic dependant cars hit our roads. I wonder what sort of an effect it has on the internals ( bore -valves etc ) after 5 years

Early days on the dynes had the oil diluting big time and damaging rear main seals because of the amount of fuel needed to do -10 to -40c cold starts.
Going from 4 hole injectors to 12 hole injectors cured that(same amount of fuel but a MUCH finer mist) to ignite.
Otherwise nothing major showing up at all.
Engine dynes doing computer simulated sunday drives to engines doing 600hrs straight at WOT...nice pretty red to white exhaust glow

[oldfart]

Interesting to note they require a finer mist, does this mean injectors require frequent service intervals. To me this diabetic shit they are ramming down our gob comes at a cost latter down the track.
I have heard that BMW do not recomend using these diabetic blends as it will affect your warranty.   ?

[huskibul]

  More expensive landfill oldfart 

[monaro308]

The finer mist was required for start ups to pass emission tests as the cats failed with the rich mixture (burning out)....Funny that an eviro friendly fuel was failing emission tests...lol.
I was telling the dyne dudes oh well throw another set of cats on and test again  
They must get that answer every time some smart arse walks into the dyne room.....they hand me a paper with the receipt for the "test cats",these are specially baked at an accellerated rate,thermocoupled,and the material inside the cats are so fragile a small tap shatters like glass.....$30,000 each
So each dyne test can cost around $200,000 a go when you add up wages,test parts,test Fuel etc,etc.
You should see the panic when a test fails just after start up,these Euro 4 - Euro 5 standards that the goverments want is a killer as the cats need to "light up" to around 360deg c within a few secs to make them effiecent.
Servos will be installing the pumps very soon in each state.

[Lozza]

dyne=dyno???

Is that e85 pumps going in everywhere? I did hear that Caltex were preparing to launch e85,is that correct?

[monaro308]

Yeah Lozza Dyno....they are called dynes at work. Also have the tow along ones about the size of a 6x4 trailer.It has a car diff and the tail shaft connects to a big generator/amature type set up.The lot weighs about 900kgs.
An extension lead from it sits next to the driver with an adjustable knob/pot to dial in any resistance,almost to the point of stalling the car at full throttle.
Yes Caltex will be installing E85 bowsers in the next few months mainly the eastern states first up,then central and west very soon after.
http://www.caltex.com.au/LatestNews/Pages/NewsItem.aspx?ID=13178

[Davey Crocket]

Another downside to these Euro 4/5 emissions is alot of the engines have to run a "low sapps" type of oil which you guessed it costs twice as much as current type blends that are used. It will also be harder on parts eg, cat converters etc to maintain the correct emissions in the service life of the vehicle.....more expensive to maintain= end user pays.

[Lozza]

Here's a bike running 17.5:1 OIL RATIO, where's all the plug fouling , smoke and black spooge out the exhaust