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All Things 414

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Is this a works Monty?
« on: February 21, 2010, 06:25:12 pm »
I was studying this picture and realized that it is a Montesa (going by the motor) but it seems to have no shocks on the swingarm and what looks like a shock reservoir on the down-tube. Could this be a works Monty  :P
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Re: Is this a works Monty?
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2010, 06:33:50 pm »
Think you'll find that its a MotoVilla(or similar) Ross
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Re: Is this a works Monty?
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2010, 06:38:03 pm »
You're kidding?  :-X Gee it looks like a Mont engine from that angle.  :(. Oh well. Saves me looking for it I guess...... :D
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Re: Is this a works Monty?
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2010, 07:05:55 pm »
Na keep looking - I'm usually wrong ,you know that ;)
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Re: Is this a works Monty?
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2010, 07:11:15 pm »
Yeah and you also let me believe that "E.T." was real. ::)
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Re: Is this a works Monty?
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2010, 07:14:44 pm »
Quote from: All Things 414 on February 21, 2010, 07:11:15 pm
Yeah and you also let me believe that "E.T." was real. ::)

E.T IS REAL 1 COME ON
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Re: Is this a works Monty?
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2010, 07:15:24 pm »
Quote from: motomaniac on February 21, 2010, 07:05:55 pm
Na keep looking - I'm usually wrong ,you know that ;)
I wouldn't be betting against you :P.

There's not much to go on but the fins look straight (and not crinkle cut).

It looks like the classic Monty kicker on the right just in front of the rider's foot.

Hmmmmmm.
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Re: Is this a works Monty?
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2010, 07:19:58 pm »
Quote from: mx250 on February 21, 2010, 07:15:24 pm
Quote from: motomaniac on February 21, 2010, 07:05:55 pm
Na keep looking - I'm usually wrong ,you know that ;)
I wouldn't be betting against you :P.

There's not much to go on but the fins look straight (and not crinkle cut).

It looks like the classic Monty kicker on the right just in front of the rider's foot.

Hmmmmmm.
Yer agreed but ... could easy be on of those early eighties brands that used components from here and there
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Re: Is this a works Monty?
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2010, 07:53:05 pm »
It is Carlos Mas on the works Montesa.  They made a few monoshocks and watercooled models
around 1984-85, before Honda pulled the plug.  Here is a pic of the Enduro mono works bike.


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Re: Is this a works Monty?
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2010, 09:01:55 pm »
Interesting - Ross's photo must be an earlier model, downtube mounted remote res.

Why do they have the front brake on the Rightside?
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Re: Is this a works Monty?
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2010, 06:25:25 am »
Good. I'm not going totally nuts! The ignition cover was the give-away...
Quote from: motomaniac on February 21, 2010, 09:01:55 pm
Why do they have the front brake on the Rightside?
I can't work that one out either!? Maybe they were trying to save on cable? ???
Very nice bike. It's a pity by that stage that they couldn't have got the counter-shaft a bit closer to the swingarm pivot but I guess by that stage not a lot of people cared anymore  :-\.
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Re: Is this a works Monty?
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2010, 08:36:22 am »
this one has the brake on the left and is a disc and a bit newer again.

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Re: Is this a works Monty?
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2010, 04:33:00 pm »
Very KTMish styling of that era
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Re: Is this a works Monty?
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2010, 05:00:40 pm »
Quote from: Hoony on February 22, 2010, 04:33:00 pm
Very KTMish styling of that era
I think they may have been exchanging ideas if not share engineering staff. The reed valve in the Monty is marked KTM.
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Re: Is this a works Monty?
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2010, 06:18:54 pm »
Not so good picture of the 1985 Works 250.  Liquid cooled, mono shock.
Was raced at the San Marino GP.
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