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Offline GD66

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Re: The 'Firsts' of MX History.
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2009, 09:50:57 pm »
And in doing so, destroyed Barry Sheene's dual supremacy and reduced him to a whining, excuse-making also-ran. Nice work Kenny ! Then went on to make it a three-peat to prove it was no fluke. Hard as nails, he'd have destroyed the psyche of today's poster boys in a bout a week.... ;)
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« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2009, 10:34:19 pm »
Read an interview with Kenny where he reckoned that Sheene psyched out himself. He also said that had Sheene just concentrated on his riding he would have kept winning.

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« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2009, 10:44:43 pm »
2 world titles isn't a bad thing amongst all the injuries he had.

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« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2009, 01:49:25 am »
Tossa where did he win a world minibike title? Wasn't every minibike meeting a world title?
I believe it was in the USA 70=71
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« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2009, 05:48:27 am »
was Leisks win at a FIM sanctioned event ?, if it was just an american event where they pronounced him world champion it doesn't count - after all the american CLUB baseball competition is called the world series and the winning club team views themselves as world champions !!!!!!

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« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2009, 09:31:48 am »
Jay Wilson is our first MX world champ recignised by FIM. Even if it is junior world champ. Leisk won GPs but not the crown. His early junior wins were non FIM sanctioned. Just the yanks claim.

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« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2009, 09:52:02 am »
Pretty much what i said on the previous page.
I think Leisk won a world mini bike title in the USA in 78 or 79.
Yeah right but i don't think they were FIM sanctioned events back then.
I think Jay Wilson is our first real FIM world junior champ.

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« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2009, 10:04:53 am »
Sorry. I will crawl back under my rock now :-X

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« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2009, 10:16:44 am »

Sorry. I will crawl back under my rock now :-X
Ha.. i have to agree with you that the yanks events were not real world titles just like the World Vets Championship they have now and only Americans ride it and the occasional Aussie.

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« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2009, 11:08:04 am »
If we are counting the Yanks own self proclaimed World Titles then I believe that Derrem Porter won our first, Followed by Leiskie. (not 100 % sure )

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« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2009, 11:25:23 am »
If we are counting the Yanks own self proclaimed World Titles then I believe that Derrem Porter won our first, Followed by Leiskie. (not 100 % sure )
I think you're right there. I remember Derim Porter winning one in the US in the 70's.
What ever happened to him? Don't remember hearing of him riding in seniors.

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« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2009, 11:34:34 am »
there was a lot of Mini Bike stars who never progressed beyond that phase and had the sane success in seniors, and i think Derrim was one as was Ross Holden.
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« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2009, 12:21:46 pm »
But claiming it to be a world championship doesnt make it one. I am not taking anything away from any of the riders that have won any of these types of "world championships". Leisk was a big heroe when I was a kid. But FIM makes it a world championship. If its not FIM sanctioned it is in that country. Thats my thought ;).

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« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2009, 12:46:41 pm »
But claiming it to be a world championship doesnt make it one. I am not taking anything away from any of the riders that have won any of these types of "world championships". Leisk was a big heroe when I was a kid. But FIM makes it a world championship. If its not FIM sanctioned it is in that country. Thats my thought ;).

100% correct, no argument from me !
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Re: The 'Firsts' of MX History.
« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2009, 01:00:34 pm »
OK I clarify my statement a bit, and that was a s a jumnior back in the early 70's I believe Jeff liesk won a mini bike world championship.  The event I believe was held in the states, but I could be wrong.  it doesn't mean:
It was a US sactioned championship or an FIM event.  just adding to the thread, lets not lambast the career of Jeff Liesk!!

Q.  is the ISDE a world championship, which i don't think we could call it that, but we did win the Youth camiponship in that i think in 1985
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