did we ever come to a conclusion about the alloy swingarm for the pre'78 RM125's

[asasin]

The optional RM B arms DID come black from the factory ,I had to paint strip mine to look flash IN 1977!! I also agree with Bill on the floating brake. providing it was made from the B hub and had no C parts it should be legal .I had it I was there!

[DR]

is Dave T getting really pissed off with this topic and me? I'd say there is no doubt YES along with everyone else and again Dave and everyone else, I'm really sorry to be the stickbrain continually dragging it up there could be a simple fix. A slight amendment to read 'Optional (Suzuki) aluminium swingarms are not permitted'  It still wouldn't sit right with me but at least I'd know whether I'm pre'78 or Evo before the fact and there can be no disputing by anybody forevermore. End of problem

[VMX247]

Never apologize for what you believe in-preserve the era. 

Quote from below:If your looking for something to be written into the rule book then it's not going to happen from typing something on here.
Go forth and concur Doc. 

[GMC]

The only annoying thing Doc is you can't accept the answer youv'e been given.
I will point it out again, from page 2

If you arrive at scruitineering with a C swing arm, regardless of where the brake arm is attached I will be sending you away. If you arrive at Scruitineering with proof that your alloy arm is the unit that was available as an option in 77 then I will be happy with that.

On another note I see the rise of after market replica swing arms, I suggest that if you have one you have a period photo or period catalogue showing its availability, only with this proof will it be acceptable.
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If your looking for something to be written into the rule book then it's not going to happen from typing something on here.


It's been this way as long as I can remember, it applies to all after market parts but the common parts are accepted easier becuase theyv'e been seen so many time before.
I don't think we need special rules just for Suzuki owners. (then again maybe we do )

[DR]

yup okay, I'll follow it up via the correct channels. Geoff, it wouldn't matter if it were Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Bultaco, Montesa or the myriad of other marques. The question has quite rightly been answered and I can assume with a parts book in hand it's eligable.

[TM BILL]

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I don't think we need special rules just for Suzuki owners. (then again maybe we do )
[/quote]

Of course we do Geoff  otherwise what will mere mortals aspire to 

[GMC]

I can assume with a parts book in hand it's eligable.

I would have thought so too, but strangely.....
18.2.1.2
The onus of proof of eligibilty shall rest upon the rider or entrant of the machine. Service & parts manual publication dates are not proof of eligibilty

Not sure of the logic of that one other than you may need something else to show that it was actually used.
Have you any magazines or other sales info?

[DR]

I could find 'proof' if I dug around Geoff but to be honest I've had a total skinfull of the topic and hypocracy. A simple yes or no answer is not forthcoming and that's all I asked. The arm is fitted and it stays, it is era and as far as I am concerned that is all that matters. If the bike only gets ridden at Classic Dirt then it's not going to make a zac of difference. End of issue

[firko]

A simple yes or no answer is not forthcoming and that's all I asked.

With due respect Doc, Dave T answered your question most positively back on page one. 
If you feel so strongly about this ( and it's pretty obvious that you do), get all of your written proof together and go through the correct process via your club. If you reckon that 'the process' is not worth going through I'm afraid you'll just have to cop it sweet.

[CamP]

What's it matter when you could buy aluminum swingarms all day long in 1977?

[Brian Watson]

Interesting advert that one....do you have a date of the magazine it appeared in...I ask because it refers to Ohlins being for sale....to my knowledge they were not available until 1978...

[LWC82PE]

do you have a date of the magazine it appeared in

Its out the 1979 FMF catalogue.

If you arrive at scruitineering with a C swing arm, regardless of where the brake arm is attached I will be sending you away. If you arrive at Scruitineering with proof that your alloy arm is the unit that was available as an option in 77 then I will be happy with that.

As far as i can see it you cant just show proof it was an option available in 77, it has to be an available listed option for a 77 model. You cant use an OEM swing arm that was available in late 77 that was listed as a option for a 78 model. It has to be listed as an option for a 77 model.

Bottom line is was it listed as an available option in the 77 parts list?

[Husky500evo]

Interesting advert that one....do you have a date of the magazine it appeared in...I ask because it refers to Ohlins being for sale....to my knowledge they were not available until 1978...

I have a page somewhere, that I downloaded from the Ohlins.com website, that says that Ohlins remote reservoir shocks were available from 1976 when the company was founded . To my knowledge, they were first factory fitted to a production bike on the 1978 Husqvarna CR250/390. They were also fitted to the KTM that Gennady Moiseev won the 1978 World 250 MX title on.

[motomaniac]

Interesting advert that one....do you have a date of the magazine it appeared in...I ask because it refers to Ohlins being for sale....to my knowledge they were not available until 1978...

I have a page somewhere, that I downloaded from the Ohlins.com website, that says that Ohlins remote reservoir shocks were available from 1976 when the company was founded . To my knowledge, they were first factory fitted to a bike on the 1978 Husqvarna CR250/390. They were also fitted to the KTM that Gennady Moiseev won the 1978 World 250 MX title on.

Thats right Huskies came with Girlings on the first Mikkola replicas but Mikkola didnt use them - at least in 76 for his 250 title - pretty sure he used were Ohlins.

[motomaniac]

Actually the Company history says that Moiseevs bike was the first World champ bike with Ohlins.
Maybe Mikkola had Hulco's like Leith suggested on another thread.