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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #240 on: February 12, 2013, 11:26:07 pm »
Standard jetting, try a couple of main jet sizes up, with open flow exhaust and bigger bore your're still delivering the same fuel/air as for a restricted exhaust smaller cylinder diameter stock engine.
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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #241 on: February 13, 2013, 06:44:37 am »
its not running lean. pulling the choke on whilst riding is making it richer down low but not affecting up top. its stumbling/breaking down at the top.
If its not the stator im wondering if its too rich because its sucking harder. plug is on the dark side but not terrible.

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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #242 on: February 13, 2013, 08:41:32 am »
 I have the Kawasaki big bore exhaust on my KLX. I had to go down two sizes on the needle jet and down to a 350 main. Now these oval bore mikunis are pretty similar to the SP370 carb. Generically they are the same family. On my Suzukis I've had to jet down not up when derestricting the inlet and exhaust. Other's tried this [I think old fart] and got the same results. I'd say you're running way rich. Theory is that as the carb flows more air the suction effect on the main jet is so much greater that you have to jet down. It's counter intuitive but it works on these carbs. Generally I'd drop the needle too. A lot of the old articles say these carbs are rubbish, but I've found them to run really clean. I think a lot of the tuned back in the days stuff was blubbering due to running rich.
The SP370 and KLX use the same size, 32mm. The SP was known to have a very restrictive airbox and 32 is a big carb for a tiny valved 250, big for any 250 of that period, even the DR400 only went to 33, so I doubt the original flow was optimal.  I've no idea why they used oval bores, I'd love someone to explain.
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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #244 on: February 17, 2013, 06:58:33 am »
Are the main jets the same as used in normal VM Mikuni carbs ?
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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #245 on: February 17, 2013, 07:55:28 am »
Yes, screw type. Kawasaki quoted anything from 132.5  through to 142.5. The engine appears remarkably insensitive to main jet. Variations that would have a DR400 or an XT500 stumbling /sputtering just elicit a different colour plug and not quite optimal running. I went straight from 140 to a 135 as it was the only jet I could get that day. Turned out to be the correct one; but I would have guessed the jetting was  closer than that, the way it was running. It was the same with the needle jet. I had to go down two sizes as the variations are so minute that Allens can't do single sizes, think it was a P.0. So I started off with two sizes smaller and the needle on full rich. It transpired that it was correct on the leanest setting, which took an afternoon, as these carbs are fiddly. Sorry for the confusion above it was a 135 rather than a 350. Further to this an SP370 with the same carb type and 32mm choke size runs a 125 main jet, yet it has to be pumping more air.
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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #246 on: February 18, 2013, 06:59:59 am »
ok thanks Ill jet it down. that screen/ airfilter combo seems pretty restrictive too...

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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #247 on: February 20, 2013, 07:42:29 pm »
I thought many years ago about removing the backfire screen. restrictive it may be, but I felt that it offered a small amount of protection if the thing farted into the airbox. The replacement foam filters do seem better than the o.e. ones.
As I found out, there are two different filters. Both look the same but are very slightly different sizes. Unifilter in Oz has the specs for both.
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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #248 on: February 20, 2013, 08:27:51 pm »
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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #249 on: April 13, 2013, 04:47:55 pm »
Electric start KLX anyone, seems it’s too powerful for its owner so it must be pretty good.
Would this be  a KZ motor or what??
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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #250 on: April 16, 2013, 05:15:28 pm »
Elactric start WTF  :o

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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #251 on: April 16, 2013, 10:08:37 pm »
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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #252 on: April 22, 2013, 02:44:19 pm »
I am fairly sure that KLX has been "sold" on eBay about 3 times now....   ::)

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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #253 on: April 22, 2013, 02:47:13 pm »
Funny how this listing "ended" 2 days after the previous one....

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/111054021799?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

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Re: KLX's - a shared disease
« Reply #254 on: April 22, 2013, 02:55:12 pm »
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I am fairly sure that KLX has been "sold" on eBay about 3 times now
I thought it was familiar....I read that it had electric start and recall thinking WTF ???. Would it be some sort of grey Jap import with electric start? That's the first time I've heard of a KLX described as being too powerful :).
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